1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:24,890 >>> IF THERE WAS ANY BUDGET ACTIVITY THIS WEEK, IT WAS 2 00:00:24,892 --> 00:00:25,924 ACTIVITY THIS WEEK, IT WAS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. 3 00:00:25,926 --> 00:00:27,159 BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. >> WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET 4 00:00:27,161 --> 00:00:28,060 >> WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET LINE BY LINE. 5 00:00:28,062 --> 00:00:30,696 LINE BY LINE. >> THAT DIDN'T STOP GOVERNOR JAN 6 00:00:30,698 --> 00:00:33,499 >> THAT DIDN'T STOP GOVERNOR JAN BREWER IN HER CRUSADE TO SECURE 7 00:00:33,501 --> 00:00:34,667 BREWER IN HER CRUSADE TO SECURE MEDICAID EXPANSION AS PART OF 8 00:00:34,669 --> 00:00:35,634 MEDICAID EXPANSION AS PART OF THE BUDGET. 9 00:00:35,636 --> 00:00:37,903 THE BUDGET. >> WE CANNOT MOVE THE BUDGET 10 00:00:37,905 --> 00:00:39,071 >> WE CANNOT MOVE THE BUDGET WITHOUT THIS INITIATIVE. 11 00:00:39,073 --> 00:00:42,241 WITHOUT THIS INITIATIVE. SO WE GOT TO GET THE MEDICAID 12 00:00:42,243 --> 00:00:44,576 SO WE GOT TO GET THE MEDICAID THING SQUARED AWAY, GET THE 13 00:00:44,578 --> 00:00:45,978 THING SQUARED AWAY, GET THE BUDGET SQUARED AWAY, AND THE 14 00:00:45,980 --> 00:00:47,613 BUDGET SQUARED AWAY, AND THE BUDGET SQUARED AWAY, 15 00:00:47,615 --> 00:00:49,548 BUDGET SQUARED AWAY, EDUCATION -- HIGHER EDUCATION, 16 00:00:49,550 --> 00:00:51,083 EDUCATION -- HIGHER EDUCATION, PUBLIC SAFETY, ALL THOSE THINGS 17 00:00:51,085 --> 00:00:54,520 PUBLIC SAFETY, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE ALL DEPEND UPON. 18 00:00:54,522 --> 00:00:57,623 THAT WE ALL DEPEND UPON. >> THE GOVERNOR APPLIES MEDICAID 19 00:00:57,625 --> 00:01:00,526 >> THE GOVERNOR APPLIES MEDICAID PRESSURE BY TAKING HER CAMPAIGN 20 00:01:00,528 --> 00:01:00,926 PRESSURE BY TAKING HER CAMPAIGN ON THE ROAD. 21 00:01:00,928 --> 00:01:04,363 ON THE ROAD. IT'S "ARIZONA WEEK." 22 00:01:04,365 --> 00:01:06,498 IT'S "ARIZONA WEEK." >>> PRODUCTION MADE IN PART BY 23 00:01:06,500 --> 00:01:08,200 >>> PRODUCTION MADE IN PART BY THE STONE WALL FOUNDATION AND 24 00:01:08,202 --> 00:01:09,868 THE STONE WALL FOUNDATION AND MEMBERS OF ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA. 25 00:01:09,870 --> 00:01:10,569 MEMBERS OF ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED 26 00:01:10,571 --> 00:01:15,641 THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. 27 00:01:15,643 --> 00:01:26,952 >> ONCE AGAIN, YOUR MODERATOR, MICHAEL CHIHAK. 28 00:01:26,954 --> 00:01:29,188 MICHAEL CHIHAK. >> NO MEDICAID, NO BUDGET. 29 00:01:29,190 --> 00:01:31,457 >> NO MEDICAID, NO BUDGET. THE LINE IN THE STAND THAT 30 00:01:31,459 --> 00:01:35,094 THE LINE IN THE STAND THAT GOVERNOR BREWER IS RELYING ON TO 31 00:01:35,096 --> 00:01:37,463 GOVERNOR BREWER IS RELYING ON TO HELP RELUCTANT REPUBLICANS IN 32 00:01:37,465 --> 00:01:38,764 HELP RELUCTANT REPUBLICANS IN THE LEGISLATURE. 33 00:01:38,766 --> 00:01:40,532 THE LEGISLATURE. >> WE CANNOT MOVE THE BUDGET 34 00:01:40,534 --> 00:01:41,367 >> WE CANNOT MOVE THE BUDGET WITHOUT THIS INITIATIVE. 35 00:01:41,369 --> 00:01:44,136 WITHOUT THIS INITIATIVE. SO WE HAVE TO GET THE MEDICAID 36 00:01:44,138 --> 00:01:46,071 SO WE HAVE TO GET THE MEDICAID THING SQUARED AWAY, THE BUDGET 37 00:01:46,073 --> 00:01:47,973 THING SQUARED AWAY, THE BUDGET SQUARED AWAY AND BY GETTING THE 38 00:01:47,975 --> 00:01:51,076 SQUARED AWAY AND BY GETTING THE BUDGET SQUARED AWAY, WE HAVE 39 00:01:51,078 --> 00:01:52,311 BUDGET SQUARED AWAY, WE HAVE EDUCATION, HIGHER EDUCATION, 40 00:01:52,313 --> 00:01:53,879 EDUCATION, HIGHER EDUCATION, PUBLIC SAFETY, ALL OF THE THINGS 41 00:01:53,881 --> 00:01:56,815 PUBLIC SAFETY, ALL OF THE THINGS WE ALL DEPEND UPON, SO WE CAN 42 00:01:56,817 --> 00:01:57,483 WE ALL DEPEND UPON, SO WE CAN HAVE THAT MONEY THERE TO DO 43 00:01:57,485 --> 00:01:58,550 HAVE THAT MONEY THERE TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR ARIZONA. 44 00:01:58,552 --> 00:02:00,185 WHAT'S RIGHT FOR ARIZONA. >> BREWER IN TUCSON THIS WEEK 45 00:02:00,187 --> 00:02:02,287 >> BREWER IN TUCSON THIS WEEK FOR A RALLY WITH LEADERS OF 46 00:02:02,289 --> 00:02:03,722 FOR A RALLY WITH LEADERS OF SOUTHERN ARIZONA'S HEALTH CARE 47 00:02:03,724 --> 00:02:04,690 SOUTHERN ARIZONA'S HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY AND THE BUSINESS 48 00:02:04,692 --> 00:02:06,925 INDUSTRY AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, PUSHING EXPANSION OF 49 00:02:06,927 --> 00:02:08,127 COMMUNITY, PUSHING EXPANSION OF MEDICAID UNDER THE AFFORDABLE 50 00:02:08,129 --> 00:02:08,661 MEDICAID UNDER THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. 51 00:02:08,663 --> 00:02:11,263 CARE ACT. SHE SAYS IT WILL BRING THE STATE 52 00:02:11,265 --> 00:02:13,966 SHE SAYS IT WILL BRING THE STATE BILLIONS IN FEDERAL DOLLARS, 53 00:02:13,968 --> 00:02:15,634 BILLIONS IN FEDERAL DOLLARS, PROVIDE HEALTH CARE FOR 300,000 54 00:02:15,636 --> 00:02:17,770 PROVIDE HEALTH CARE FOR 300,000 PEOPLE AND CREATE THOUSANDS OF 55 00:02:17,772 --> 00:02:18,070 PEOPLE AND CREATE THOUSANDS OF JOBS. 56 00:02:18,072 --> 00:02:21,707 JOBS. >> I DELIBERATED LONG AND HARD. 57 00:02:21,709 --> 00:02:22,675 >> I DELIBERATED LONG AND HARD. I KNEW IT WOULD BE A FIRESTORM, 58 00:02:22,677 --> 00:02:24,109 I KNEW IT WOULD BE A FIRESTORM, I WANTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING. 59 00:02:24,111 --> 00:02:25,844 I WANTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING. WE ALL PAY FEDERAL TAXES, SEND 60 00:02:25,846 --> 00:02:27,146 WE ALL PAY FEDERAL TAXES, SEND IT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND 61 00:02:27,148 --> 00:02:28,747 IT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO BRING 62 00:02:28,749 --> 00:02:33,218 THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THOSE FEDERAL DOLLARS BACK IN 63 00:02:33,220 --> 00:02:35,454 THOSE FEDERAL DOLLARS BACK IN INTO -- INTO ARIZONA AND PUT IT 64 00:02:35,456 --> 00:02:38,323 INTO -- INTO ARIZONA AND PUT IT TO GOOD USE IT WILL SAVE RURAL 65 00:02:38,325 --> 00:02:40,059 TO GOOD USE IT WILL SAVE RURAL HOSPITALS FROM CLOSING DOWN IT 66 00:02:40,061 --> 00:02:41,560 HOSPITALS FROM CLOSING DOWN IT WILL HELP LARGER HOSPITALS, 67 00:02:41,562 --> 00:02:43,228 WILL HELP LARGER HOSPITALS, ALLOW THEM TO PROVIDE SERVICES 68 00:02:43,230 --> 00:02:45,564 ALLOW THEM TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THOSE THAT NEED THEM IN THIS 69 00:02:45,566 --> 00:02:46,965 TO THOSE THAT NEED THEM IN THIS COMMUNITY AND BUILD JOBS AND 70 00:02:46,967 --> 00:02:48,701 COMMUNITY AND BUILD JOBS AND WON'T COST A PENNY TO DELIVER 71 00:02:48,703 --> 00:02:50,102 WON'T COST A PENNY TO DELIVER SERVICES TO ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE. 72 00:02:50,104 --> 00:02:52,037 SERVICES TO ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE. IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 73 00:02:52,039 --> 00:02:54,106 IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. >> AT THE RALLY, HELD AT TUCSON 74 00:02:54,108 --> 00:02:56,742 >> AT THE RALLY, HELD AT TUCSON MEDICAL CENTER, BREWER REJECTED 75 00:02:56,744 --> 00:03:01,680 MEDICAL CENTER, BREWER REJECTED ARIZONA HOUSE SPEAKER'S PROPOSED 76 00:03:01,682 --> 00:03:04,049 ARIZONA HOUSE SPEAKER'S PROPOSED REFUSE RIPPED UM ON MEDICATION 77 00:03:04,051 --> 00:03:05,017 REFUSE RIPPED UM ON MEDICATION EXPANSION THIS FALL. 78 00:03:05,019 --> 00:03:07,653 EXPANSION THIS FALL. >> THE EASY WAY OUT, WHEN TOUGH 79 00:03:07,655 --> 00:03:09,321 >> THE EASY WAY OUT, WHEN TOUGH THINGS ON THE TABLE IS TO PUNT, 80 00:03:09,323 --> 00:03:11,924 THINGS ON THE TABLE IS TO PUNT, SEND IT TO THE VOTERS, I BELIEVE 81 00:03:11,926 --> 00:03:13,225 SEND IT TO THE VOTERS, I BELIEVE IN THE INITIATIVE PROCESS, IN 82 00:03:13,227 --> 00:03:14,960 IN THE INITIATIVE PROCESS, IN THE REFERENDUM PROCESS, THAT'S A 83 00:03:14,962 --> 00:03:18,030 THE REFERENDUM PROCESS, THAT'S A WAY YOU CAN GET THINGS DONE, BUT 84 00:03:18,032 --> 00:03:19,631 WAY YOU CAN GET THINGS DONE, BUT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON 85 00:03:19,633 --> 00:03:22,368 THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON WHY OUR LEGISLATURE CANNOT GET 86 00:03:22,370 --> 00:03:24,269 WHY OUR LEGISLATURE CANNOT GET THIS PASSED OUT OF THE HOUSE AND 87 00:03:24,271 --> 00:03:25,404 THIS PASSED OUT OF THE HOUSE AND REVOTED IN THE SENATE AND GET 88 00:03:25,406 --> 00:03:26,238 REVOTED IN THE SENATE AND GET THE JOB DONE. 89 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,272 THE JOB DONE. IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. 90 00:03:27,274 --> 00:03:28,741 IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. >> THE HOUSE IS EXPECTED TO 91 00:03:28,743 --> 00:03:30,676 >> THE HOUSE IS EXPECTED TO DEBATE THE ISSUE NEXT WEEK. 92 00:03:30,678 --> 00:03:32,344 DEBATE THE ISSUE NEXT WEEK. FOR THAT REASON, BREWER TOLD 93 00:03:32,346 --> 00:03:34,279 FOR THAT REASON, BREWER TOLD MORE THAN 200 PEOPLE AT THE 94 00:03:34,281 --> 00:03:35,147 MORE THAN 200 PEOPLE AT THE RALLY -- 95 00:03:35,149 --> 00:03:36,682 RALLY -- >> IF THEY TAKE IT TO THE 96 00:03:36,684 --> 00:03:39,318 >> IF THEY TAKE IT TO THE PUBLIC, THEN THERE WILL BE ALL 97 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,120 PUBLIC, THEN THERE WILL BE ALL KINDS, I BELIEVE, OF CONTROVERSY 98 00:03:41,122 --> 00:03:41,854 KINDS, I BELIEVE, OF CONTROVERSY OUT THERE. 99 00:03:41,856 --> 00:03:44,156 OUT THERE. IT'S A DIFFICULT SITUATION. 100 00:03:44,158 --> 00:03:46,825 IT'S A DIFFICULT SITUATION. AND ETHAN TALKED ABOUT SOME 101 00:03:46,827 --> 00:03:49,595 AND ETHAN TALKED ABOUT SOME MYTHS AND ALWAYS TALK, MEDICARE 102 00:03:49,597 --> 00:03:53,165 MYTHS AND ALWAYS TALK, MEDICARE ACCESS MEDICAID IS OUR ACCESS 103 00:03:53,167 --> 00:03:53,532 ACCESS MEDICAID IS OUR ACCESS PROGRAM. 104 00:03:53,534 --> 00:03:54,800 PROGRAM. MEDICAID HAS BEEN AROUND 105 00:03:54,802 --> 00:03:56,935 MEDICAID HAS BEEN AROUND FOREVER, BUT THEY WANT TO CALL 106 00:03:56,937 --> 00:03:59,571 FOREVER, BUT THEY WANT TO CALL IT OBAMA CARE, BECAUSE FOR SOME 107 00:03:59,573 --> 00:04:00,673 IT OBAMA CARE, BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON THEY LIKE TO PUT 108 00:04:00,675 --> 00:04:02,708 REASON THEY LIKE TO PUT EVERYTHING UNDER THAT UMBRELLA. 109 00:04:02,710 --> 00:04:05,010 EVERYTHING UNDER THAT UMBRELLA. OBAMA CARE IS THAT BIG UMBRELLA, 110 00:04:05,012 --> 00:04:08,414 OBAMA CARE IS THAT BIG UMBRELLA, AND A TINY PORTION OF IT IS THE 111 00:04:08,416 --> 00:04:10,549 AND A TINY PORTION OF IT IS THE MEDICAID, OUR ACCESS PROGRAM. 112 00:04:10,551 --> 00:04:14,319 MEDICAID, OUR ACCESS PROGRAM. WHICH WAS HERE LONG BEFORE OBAMA 113 00:04:14,321 --> 00:04:15,587 WHICH WAS HERE LONG BEFORE OBAMA HEALTH CARE. 114 00:04:15,589 --> 00:04:17,523 HEALTH CARE. AND IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY, 115 00:04:17,525 --> 00:04:19,625 AND IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY, SERVICES, EARLY ON, FOR THOSE OF 116 00:04:19,627 --> 00:04:21,527 SERVICES, EARLY ON, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE NOT OLD ENOUGH TO 117 00:04:21,529 --> 00:04:23,796 YOU THAT ARE NOT OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER, WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE 118 00:04:23,798 --> 00:04:24,863 REMEMBER, WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOCTOR, THE COUNTY 119 00:04:24,865 --> 00:04:26,632 NEIGHBORHOOD DOCTOR, THE COUNTY TOOK OVER, STARTED DELIVERING 120 00:04:26,634 --> 00:04:29,335 TOOK OVER, STARTED DELIVERING SERVICES AND WE STEPPED UP, AND 121 00:04:29,337 --> 00:04:30,803 SERVICES AND WE STEPPED UP, AND THE LAST STATE IN THE UNION TO 122 00:04:30,805 --> 00:04:32,237 THE LAST STATE IN THE UNION TO ADOPT A MEDICAID. 123 00:04:32,239 --> 00:04:34,673 ADOPT A MEDICAID. AND WE DID IT, WE DID IT WELL. 124 00:04:34,675 --> 00:04:36,241 AND WE DID IT, WE DID IT WELL. WE'RE NOW THE GOLD STANDARD. 125 00:04:36,243 --> 00:04:37,976 WE'RE NOW THE GOLD STANDARD. WE DELIVER IT BETTER, WE DELIVER 126 00:04:37,978 --> 00:04:39,812 WE DELIVER IT BETTER, WE DELIVER IT MORE EFFECTIVELY AND WE 127 00:04:39,814 --> 00:04:41,847 IT MORE EFFECTIVELY AND WE DELIVER IT LESS EXPENSIVELY, 128 00:04:41,849 --> 00:04:44,283 DELIVER IT LESS EXPENSIVELY, THAN THE MAJORITY OF EVERY STATE 129 00:04:44,285 --> 00:04:45,751 THAN THE MAJORITY OF EVERY STATE IN THIS COUNTRY OF OURS, THEY 130 00:04:45,753 --> 00:04:46,518 IN THIS COUNTRY OF OURS, THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING TO ARIZONA TO 131 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:51,657 SHOULD BE LOOKING TO ARIZONA TO IMPLEMENT. 132 00:04:51,659 --> 00:04:54,059 IMPLEMENT. >> WE JUST NEED EVERYBODY ON 133 00:04:54,061 --> 00:04:55,461 >> WE JUST NEED EVERYBODY ON BOARD, GET THEIR FACTS STRAIGHT 134 00:04:55,463 --> 00:04:57,162 BOARD, GET THEIR FACTS STRAIGHT AND CALL YOUR LEGISLATORS AND 135 00:04:57,164 --> 00:04:59,798 AND CALL YOUR LEGISLATORS AND T@ THEM, WE CAN'T -- WE 136 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,167 T@ THEM, WE CAN'T -- WE ELECTED YOU TO DO YOUR JOB, NOW 137 00:05:02,169 --> 00:05:03,002 ELECTED YOU TO DO YOUR JOB, NOW DO IT! 138 00:05:03,004 --> 00:05:06,505 DO IT! >> AFTERWARD, THE GOVERNOR TOLD 139 00:05:06,507 --> 00:05:07,239 >> AFTERWARD, THE GOVERNOR TOLD REPORTERS WHY SHE IS PUSHING SO 140 00:05:07,241 --> 00:05:09,708 REPORTERS WHY SHE IS PUSHING SO HARD AND HOW SHE SEES THE 141 00:05:09,710 --> 00:05:10,042 HARD AND HOW SHE SEES THE CHANCES. 142 00:05:10,044 --> 00:05:13,679 CHANCES. >> SOME SAY THAT THIS IS A 143 00:05:13,681 --> 00:05:14,880 >> SOME SAY THAT THIS IS A LEGACY STANCE ON YOUR PART AND 144 00:05:14,882 --> 00:05:16,515 LEGACY STANCE ON YOUR PART AND THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT 145 00:05:16,517 --> 00:05:19,718 THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS THE VOTE ON MEDICAID. 146 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,620 AS FAR AS THE VOTE ON MEDICAID. IS PRESERVING YOUR LEGACY. 147 00:05:21,622 --> 00:05:25,057 IS PRESERVING YOUR LEGACY. >> YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IT IS THE 148 00:05:25,059 --> 00:05:26,792 >> YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR ARIZONA. 149 00:05:26,794 --> 00:05:28,127 RIGHT THING TO DO FOR ARIZONA. IT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING THAT 150 00:05:28,129 --> 00:05:29,828 IT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING THAT WILL PROBABLY BE A LEGACY. 151 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:31,363 WILL PROBABLY BE A LEGACY. WILL CHANGE THE -- THE LANDSCAPE 152 00:05:31,365 --> 00:05:33,632 WILL CHANGE THE -- THE LANDSCAPE OF ARIZONA FOR THE BETTER. 153 00:05:33,634 --> 00:05:35,334 OF ARIZONA FOR THE BETTER. AND I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT 154 00:05:35,336 --> 00:05:37,536 AND I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT I'VE RECEIVED ON IT, BUT I'M 155 00:05:37,538 --> 00:05:38,937 I'VE RECEIVED ON IT, BUT I'M COMMITTED AND WILL GET IT DONE. 156 00:05:38,939 --> 00:05:40,139 COMMITTED AND WILL GET IT DONE. >> WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM THE 157 00:05:40,141 --> 00:05:43,876 >> WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM THE HOUSE IN WHAT THEY ARE COMING -- 158 00:05:43,878 --> 00:05:45,377 HOUSE IN WHAT THEY ARE COMING -- >> I MET WITH THE SPEAKER AND 159 00:05:45,379 --> 00:05:47,579 >> I MET WITH THE SPEAKER AND HIS STAFF AND MY STAFF HAS MET A 160 00:05:47,581 --> 00:05:49,481 HIS STAFF AND MY STAFF HAS MET A LOT WITH THEIR STAFF, AND WE ARE 161 00:05:49,483 --> 00:05:52,384 LOT WITH THEIR STAFF, AND WE ARE HOPEFUL WE CAN COME TO AN 162 00:05:52,386 --> 00:05:53,819 HOPEFUL WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT, A PLAN TO GET IT OUT 163 00:05:53,821 --> 00:05:55,087 AGREEMENT, A PLAN TO GET IT OUT OF HOUSE AND BACK TO THE SENATE. 164 00:05:55,089 --> 00:05:57,156 OF HOUSE AND BACK TO THE SENATE. >> IS THE OPPOSITION ECONOMIC OR 165 00:05:57,158 --> 00:06:01,627 >> IS THE OPPOSITION ECONOMIC OR IS THE OPPOSITION MORE 166 00:06:01,629 --> 00:06:01,994 IS THE OPPOSITION MORE POLITICAL? 167 00:06:01,996 --> 00:06:04,430 POLITICAL? >> I THINK U.S.IT'S A LITTLE BI 168 00:06:04,432 --> 00:06:04,763 >> I THINK U.S.IT'S A LITTLE BI BOTH. 169 00:06:04,765 --> 00:06:06,498 BOTH. I THINK THAT THEY ARE WORRIED 170 00:06:06,500 --> 00:06:07,633 I THINK THAT THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR DISTRICT. 171 00:06:07,635 --> 00:06:09,935 ABOUT THEIR DISTRICT. A COMPLEX ISSUE TO EXPLAIN TO 172 00:06:09,937 --> 00:06:10,903 A COMPLEX ISSUE TO EXPLAIN TO CONSTITUENTS AND THEY WANT TO 173 00:06:10,905 --> 00:06:12,838 CONSTITUENTS AND THEY WANT TO EQUATE IT TO OBAMA CARE. 174 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:15,307 EQUATE IT TO OBAMA CARE. A LITTLE PIECE OF OBAMA CARE, 175 00:06:15,309 --> 00:06:15,674 A LITTLE PIECE OF OBAMA CARE, MEDICAID. 176 00:06:15,676 --> 00:06:17,576 MEDICAID. MEDICAID WAS HERE A LONG TIME 177 00:06:17,578 --> 00:06:20,879 MEDICAID WAS HERE A LONG TIME BEFORE OBAMA CARE, AND SO IT IS 178 00:06:20,881 --> 00:06:21,246 BEFORE OBAMA CARE, AND SO IT IS DIFFICULT. 179 00:06:21,248 --> 00:06:23,582 DIFFICULT. DIFFICULT FOR ME. 180 00:06:23,584 --> 00:06:25,351 DIFFICULT FOR ME. >> HOW DIFFICULT HAS THE 181 00:06:25,353 --> 00:06:27,986 >> HOW DIFFICULT HAS THE DECISION BEEN FOR GOP LAWMAKERS? 182 00:06:27,988 --> 00:06:30,155 DECISION BEEN FOR GOP LAWMAKERS? HERE TO TELL US, REPRESENTATIVE 183 00:06:30,157 --> 00:06:32,725 HERE TO TELL US, REPRESENTATIVE ETHAN OR FROM TUCSON'S NORTH 184 00:06:32,727 --> 00:06:34,193 ETHAN OR FROM TUCSON'S NORTH SIDE DISTRICT NINE. 185 00:06:34,195 --> 00:06:35,094 SIDE DISTRICT NINE. WELCOME, REPRESENTATIVE OR. 186 00:06:35,096 --> 00:06:35,961 WELCOME, REPRESENTATIVE OR. >> THANK YOU, MICHAEL. 187 00:06:35,963 --> 00:06:39,865 >> THANK YOU, MICHAEL. I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO BE 188 00:06:39,867 --> 00:06:41,033 I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO BE HERE. 189 00:06:41,035 --> 00:06:42,534 HERE. YOU SUPPORT MEDICAID EXPANSION. 190 00:06:42,536 --> 00:06:44,069 YOU SUPPORT MEDICAID EXPANSION. WHAT KIND OF SUPPORT HAVE YOU 191 00:06:44,071 --> 00:06:44,403 WHAT KIND OF SUPPORT HAVE YOU GOTTEN? 192 00:06:44,405 --> 00:06:46,638 GOTTEN? >> ON BOTH SIDES OF THE DEBATE, 193 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,140 >> ON BOTH SIDES OF THE DEBATE, A VERY PASSIONATE DISCUSSION 194 00:06:48,142 --> 00:06:48,841 A VERY PASSIONATE DISCUSSION WHICH IS GOOD. 195 00:06:48,843 --> 00:06:50,509 WHICH IS GOOD. THIS IS ONE OF THE FARTHEST 196 00:06:50,511 --> 00:06:52,578 THIS IS ONE OF THE FARTHEST REACHING POLICIES WE'LL MAKE 197 00:06:52,580 --> 00:06:54,213 REACHING POLICIES WE'LL MAKE VOTE ON CERTAINLY THIS YEAR, IF 198 00:06:54,215 --> 00:06:55,614 VOTE ON CERTAINLY THIS YEAR, IF NOT FOR SEVERAL YEARS, SO I 199 00:06:55,616 --> 00:06:57,816 NOT FOR SEVERAL YEARS, SO I EXPECT A ROBUST DEBATE ON BOTH 200 00:06:57,818 --> 00:06:58,150 EXPECT A ROBUST DEBATE ON BOTH SIDES. 201 00:06:58,152 --> 00:06:59,818 SIDES. THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS OF MY 202 00:06:59,820 --> 00:07:01,353 THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS OF MY CAUCUS THAT OPPOSE IT AND HAVE 203 00:07:01,355 --> 00:07:02,287 CAUCUS THAT OPPOSE IT AND HAVE LET ME KNOW. 204 00:07:02,289 --> 00:07:03,856 LET ME KNOW. >> AND YOU SAID AT THE RALLY 205 00:07:03,858 --> 00:07:06,191 >> AND YOU SAID AT THE RALLY THIS WEEK HERE IN TUCSON, WITH 206 00:07:06,193 --> 00:07:09,628 THIS WEEK HERE IN TUCSON, WITH GOVERNOR BREWER, THAT YOU ARE 207 00:07:09,630 --> 00:07:11,230 GOVERNOR BREWER, THAT YOU ARE AMONG EIGHT REPUBLICANS IN THE 208 00:07:11,232 --> 00:07:12,431 AMONG EIGHT REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE THAT SUPPORT THIS, 209 00:07:12,433 --> 00:07:14,566 HOUSE THAT SUPPORT THIS, COMBINED WITH THE FULL 210 00:07:14,568 --> 00:07:16,301 COMBINED WITH THE FULL DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS, THAT'S A 211 00:07:16,303 --> 00:07:16,669 DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS, THAT'S A MAJORITY. 212 00:07:16,671 --> 00:07:17,002 MAJORITY. >> YES. 213 00:07:17,004 --> 00:07:18,904 >> YES. >> HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO MOVE 214 00:07:18,906 --> 00:07:19,672 >> HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT? 215 00:07:19,674 --> 00:07:20,773 FORWARD WITH THAT? >> THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING 216 00:07:20,775 --> 00:07:22,374 >> THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING ON. 217 00:07:22,376 --> 00:07:23,575 WE'RE WORKING ON. WORKING WITH HEATHER CARTER, 218 00:07:23,577 --> 00:07:24,743 WORKING WITH HEATHER CARTER, CHAIR OF THE HEALTH COMMITTEE 219 00:07:24,745 --> 00:07:26,311 CHAIR OF THE HEALTH COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW, TO FIGURE OUT HOW 220 00:07:26,313 --> 00:07:27,546 RIGHT NOW, TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS MOVES TO THE FLOOR. 221 00:07:27,548 --> 00:07:29,081 THIS MOVES TO THE FLOOR. AS YOU KNOW, THE SENATE PASSED 222 00:07:29,083 --> 00:07:31,016 AS YOU KNOW, THE SENATE PASSED THIS LAST WEEK, TRANSMITTED THE 223 00:07:31,018 --> 00:07:34,286 THIS LAST WEEK, TRANSMITTED THE BUDGET TO THE HOUSE, HAS SEVERAL 224 00:07:34,288 --> 00:07:35,154 BUDGET TO THE HOUSE, HAS SEVERAL ROUTES IT COULD GO. 225 00:07:35,156 --> 00:07:37,222 ROUTES IT COULD GO. IT COULD GO THROUGH 226 00:07:37,224 --> 00:07:38,824 IT COULD GO THROUGH APPROPRIATIONS, END UP ON THE 227 00:07:38,826 --> 00:07:40,292 APPROPRIATIONS, END UP ON THE FLOOR, MAY BE OTHER WAYS TO GET 228 00:07:40,294 --> 00:07:41,627 FLOOR, MAY BE OTHER WAYS TO GET IT TO THE FLOOR AS WELL. 229 00:07:41,629 --> 00:07:44,596 IT TO THE FLOOR AS WELL. AN UP-OR-DOWN VOTE ON MEDICAID 230 00:07:44,598 --> 00:07:45,464 AN UP-OR-DOWN VOTE ON MEDICAID WILL HAPPEN. 231 00:07:45,466 --> 00:07:48,200 WILL HAPPEN. >> DO WE EXPECT ACTION ON THAT 232 00:07:48,202 --> 00:07:48,767 >> DO WE EXPECT ACTION ON THAT NEXT WEEK? 233 00:07:48,769 --> 00:07:50,636 NEXT WEEK? >> A LOT BEHIND THE SCENES, NOT 234 00:07:50,638 --> 00:07:51,570 >> A LOT BEHIND THE SCENES, NOT JUST MEDICAID. 235 00:07:51,572 --> 00:07:54,540 JUST MEDICAID. THE ENTIRE STATE BUDGET, ABOUT 236 00:07:54,542 --> 00:07:55,541 THE ENTIRE STATE BUDGET, ABOUT 8$8.7 BILLION. 237 00:07:55,543 --> 00:07:56,909 8$8.7 BILLION. SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF 238 00:07:56,911 --> 00:07:58,277 SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS THERE, THOSE WILL 239 00:07:58,279 --> 00:08:00,379 DISCUSSIONS THERE, THOSE WILL CONTINUE, I THINK YOU WILL SEE 240 00:08:00,381 --> 00:08:01,680 CONTINUE, I THINK YOU WILL SEE COMMITTEE HEARINGS NEXT WEEK AND 241 00:08:01,682 --> 00:08:03,382 COMMITTEE HEARINGS NEXT WEEK AND PROBABLY A VOTE BY THE ENTIRE 242 00:08:03,384 --> 00:08:04,283 PROBABLY A VOTE BY THE ENTIRE HOUSE THE WEEK AFTER? 243 00:08:04,285 --> 00:08:05,351 HOUSE THE WEEK AFTER? >> THE WEEK AFTER. 244 00:08:05,353 --> 00:08:06,852 >> THE WEEK AFTER. SO ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS AND 245 00:08:06,854 --> 00:08:09,188 SO ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS AND IT HAS TO GO TO THE SENATE WE 246 00:08:09,190 --> 00:08:09,988 IT HAS TO GO TO THE SENATE WE ASSUME, RIGHT? 247 00:08:09,990 --> 00:08:10,589 ASSUME, RIGHT? >> YES. 248 00:08:10,591 --> 00:08:12,958 >> YES. WHAT I ASSUMED TALKING TO 249 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,326 WHAT I ASSUMED TALKING TO SENATORS, AS LONG AS THERE ARE 250 00:08:14,328 --> 00:08:15,427 SENATORS, AS LONG AS THERE ARE NOT SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES, THEY 251 00:08:15,429 --> 00:08:17,963 NOT SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES, THEY WILL CONCUR, WHICH WILL MOVE IT 252 00:08:17,965 --> 00:08:19,798 WILL CONCUR, WHICH WILL MOVE IT VERY RAPIDLY TO THE GOVERNOR. 253 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,934 VERY RAPIDLY TO THE GOVERNOR. >> WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS WEEK IN 254 00:08:21,936 --> 00:08:23,302 >> WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS WEEK IN THE HOUSE WHEN IT COMES TO 255 00:08:23,304 --> 00:08:26,405 THE HOUSE WHEN IT COMES TO MEDICAID AND THE BUDGET? 256 00:08:26,407 --> 00:08:27,573 MEDICAID AND THE BUDGET? WAS IT BEHIND THE SCENES? 257 00:08:27,575 --> 00:08:29,775 WAS IT BEHIND THE SCENES? >> IT WAS. 258 00:08:29,777 --> 00:08:32,111 >> IT WAS. THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS WENT 259 00:08:32,113 --> 00:08:33,545 THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE BUDGET LINE 260 00:08:33,547 --> 00:08:34,246 THROUGH THE ENTIRE BUDGET LINE BY LINE. 261 00:08:34,248 --> 00:08:36,382 BY LINE. AND ONE THING THAT TOUCHED ME, 262 00:08:36,384 --> 00:08:37,249 AND ONE THING THAT TOUCHED ME, REPRESENTATIVE CAVANAUGH, 263 00:08:37,251 --> 00:08:38,517 REPRESENTATIVE CAVANAUGH, AGAINST THE MEDICAID, AND HE 264 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:40,252 AGAINST THE MEDICAID, AND HE SAID, LOOK, THIS DECISION HAS 265 00:08:40,254 --> 00:08:43,055 SAID, LOOK, THIS DECISION HAS TORN OUR CAUCUS, TORN OUR STATE 266 00:08:43,057 --> 00:08:43,355 TORN OUR CAUCUS, TORN OUR STATE APART. 267 00:08:43,357 --> 00:08:44,990 APART. NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, WHEN WE 268 00:08:44,992 --> 00:08:45,991 NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, WHEN WE VOTE, IT IS OVER. 269 00:08:45,993 --> 00:08:47,493 VOTE, IT IS OVER. AND WE COME BACK TOGETHER AND 270 00:08:47,495 --> 00:08:49,628 AND WE COME BACK TOGETHER AND WE'RE A CAUCUS AGAIN AND THAT'S 271 00:08:49,630 --> 00:08:51,130 WE'RE A CAUCUS AGAIN AND THAT'S KIND OF THE SENTIMENT I HAVE FOR 272 00:08:51,132 --> 00:08:52,264 KIND OF THE SENTIMENT I HAVE FOR THE STATE. 273 00:08:52,266 --> 00:08:55,768 THE STATE. IT'S VERY DIVISIVE, DIFFICULT 274 00:08:55,770 --> 00:08:56,969 IT'S VERY DIVISIVE, DIFFICULT DECISION, BUT ONCE IT'S OVER, 275 00:08:56,971 --> 00:08:57,569 DECISION, BUT ONCE IT'S OVER, IT'S OVER. 276 00:08:57,571 --> 00:08:58,904 IT'S OVER. >> I WANT TO ASK YOU A COUPLE 277 00:08:58,906 --> 00:09:01,306 >> I WANT TO ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. 278 00:09:01,308 --> 00:09:02,741 QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. LET'S TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT A 279 00:09:02,743 --> 00:09:04,243 LET'S TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT A PROPOSAL COMING FROM SPEAKER 280 00:09:04,245 --> 00:09:05,310 PROPOSAL COMING FROM SPEAKER TOBIN IN THE HOUSE. 281 00:09:05,312 --> 00:09:08,013 TOBIN IN THE HOUSE. TO PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT IN THE 282 00:09:08,015 --> 00:09:08,313 TO PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT IN THE FALL. 283 00:09:08,315 --> 00:09:09,715 FALL. DOES THAT HAVE ANY FUTURE? 284 00:09:09,717 --> 00:09:11,150 DOES THAT HAVE ANY FUTURE? >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. 285 00:09:11,152 --> 00:09:12,918 >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. THE SPEAKER AND I HAD A LONG 286 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:13,886 THE SPEAKER AND I HAD A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT JUST 287 00:09:13,888 --> 00:09:15,354 CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT JUST THIS PAST WEEKEND, I TOLD THEM 288 00:09:15,356 --> 00:09:17,823 THIS PAST WEEKEND, I TOLD THEM THAT I DO NOT SUPPORT THAT 289 00:09:17,825 --> 00:09:19,291 THAT I DO NOT SUPPORT THAT REFERENDUM, I DON'T BELIEVE HE 290 00:09:19,293 --> 00:09:20,859 REFERENDUM, I DON'T BELIEVE HE HAS THE VOTES TO DO THE 291 00:09:20,861 --> 00:09:23,529 HAS THE VOTES TO DO THE REFERENDUM AND ONE OF THE THINGS 292 00:09:23,531 --> 00:09:24,797 REFERENDUM AND ONE OF THE THINGS I TOLD HIM THAT REALLY MATTERED 293 00:09:24,799 --> 00:09:27,199 I TOLD HIM THAT REALLY MATTERED TO ME, PEOPLE SENT ME TO PHOENIX 294 00:09:27,201 --> 00:09:28,300 TO ME, PEOPLE SENT ME TO PHOENIX TO MAKE A DECISION. 295 00:09:28,302 --> 00:09:29,335 TO MAKE A DECISION. WE HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION 296 00:09:29,337 --> 00:09:30,469 WE HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION WE NEED. 297 00:09:30,471 --> 00:09:32,738 WE NEED. LET'S MAKE THE DECISION, 20 298 00:09:32,740 --> 00:09:34,540 LET'S MAKE THE DECISION, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN I'M TELLING 299 00:09:34,542 --> 00:09:36,108 YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN I'M TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT MY TIME IN THE 300 00:09:36,110 --> 00:09:38,444 PEOPLE ABOUT MY TIME IN THE LEGISLATURE, I DON'T WANT TO 301 00:09:38,446 --> 00:09:39,578 LEGISLATURE, I DON'T WANT TO LOOK THEM IN THE EYE AND SAY IT 302 00:09:39,580 --> 00:09:40,512 LOOK THEM IN THE EYE AND SAY IT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION 303 00:09:40,514 --> 00:09:43,649 WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION WE HAD, SO WE DEFERRED TO THE 304 00:09:43,651 --> 00:09:43,982 WE HAD, SO WE DEFERRED TO THE VOTERS. 305 00:09:43,984 --> 00:09:46,085 VOTERS. I THINK PEOPLE WANT US TO 306 00:09:46,087 --> 00:09:46,418 I THINK PEOPLE WANT US TO DECIDE. 307 00:09:46,420 --> 00:09:48,954 DECIDE. >> YOU SPOKE A MOMENT AGO ABOUT 308 00:09:48,956 --> 00:09:50,055 >> YOU SPOKE A MOMENT AGO ABOUT REPUBLICANS WANTING TO COME BACK 309 00:09:50,057 --> 00:09:51,156 REPUBLICANS WANTING TO COME BACK TOGETHER. 310 00:09:51,158 --> 00:09:52,891 TOGETHER. REPUBLICAN UNITY IS SOMETHING 311 00:09:52,893 --> 00:09:54,059 REPUBLICAN UNITY IS SOMETHING THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS KNOWN 312 00:09:54,061 --> 00:09:55,027 THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS KNOWN FOR OVER THE YEARS. 313 00:09:55,029 --> 00:09:57,830 FOR OVER THE YEARS. WHAT IS IT ABOUT THIS THAT HAS 314 00:09:57,832 --> 00:09:59,365 WHAT IS IT ABOUT THIS THAT HAS LED TO THE RIFT, IF YOU WILL? 315 00:09:59,367 --> 00:10:02,067 LED TO THE RIFT, IF YOU WILL? >> WELL, AGAIN, IT'S SUCH A HUGE 316 00:10:02,069 --> 00:10:03,769 >> WELL, AGAIN, IT'S SUCH A HUGE DECISION AND THE WAY THAT IT WAS 317 00:10:03,771 --> 00:10:06,071 DECISION AND THE WAY THAT IT WAS FRAMED ORIGINALLY, IT WAS NOT 318 00:10:06,073 --> 00:10:07,573 FRAMED ORIGINALLY, IT WAS NOT FRAMED AS A POLICY DECISION, BUT 319 00:10:07,575 --> 00:10:10,042 FRAMED AS A POLICY DECISION, BUT PEOPLE LATCHED ON, THIS IS OBAMA 320 00:10:10,044 --> 00:10:12,911 PEOPLE LATCHED ON, THIS IS OBAMA CARE, AND, FRANKLY, SOME OF THE 321 00:10:12,913 --> 00:10:14,680 CARE, AND, FRANKLY, SOME OF THE E-MAILS I AM GETTING INTELLIGENT 322 00:10:14,682 --> 00:10:16,281 E-MAILS I AM GETTING INTELLIGENT PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT, DON'T 323 00:10:16,283 --> 00:10:18,250 PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT, DON'T MAKE SENSE, BECAUSE THEY AREN'T 324 00:10:18,252 --> 00:10:19,251 MAKE SENSE, BECAUSE THEY AREN'T TIED TO THIS DECISION. 325 00:10:19,253 --> 00:10:21,020 TIED TO THIS DECISION. I THINK THIS DECISION HAS TAKEN 326 00:10:21,022 --> 00:10:22,821 I THINK THIS DECISION HAS TAKEN ON A LIFE GREATER THAN ITSELF. 327 00:10:22,823 --> 00:10:25,190 ON A LIFE GREATER THAN ITSELF. >> ARE YOU -- ARE YOU CONVINCED 328 00:10:25,192 --> 00:10:27,793 >> ARE YOU -- ARE YOU CONVINCED THAT THE CAUCUS WILL COME BACK 329 00:10:27,795 --> 00:10:30,496 THAT THE CAUCUS WILL COME BACK TOGETHER, BOTH IN THE HOUSE AND 330 00:10:30,498 --> 00:10:32,231 TOGETHER, BOTH IN THE HOUSE AND IN THE SENATE TO BE UNIFIED ON 331 00:10:32,233 --> 00:10:34,333 IN THE SENATE TO BE UNIFIED ON FUTURE ISSUES AND IN FUTURE 332 00:10:34,335 --> 00:10:34,700 FUTURE ISSUES AND IN FUTURE SESSIONS? 333 00:10:34,702 --> 00:10:36,201 SESSIONS? >> I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST TO 334 00:10:36,203 --> 00:10:38,203 >> I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS AND DO MY 335 00:10:38,205 --> 00:10:39,872 MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS AND DO MY BEST TO MAKE SURE THE ENTIRE 336 00:10:39,874 --> 00:10:40,506 BEST TO MAKE SURE THE ENTIRE HOUSEWORKS TOGETHER. 337 00:10:40,508 --> 00:10:41,807 HOUSEWORKS TOGETHER. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO 338 00:10:41,809 --> 00:10:44,076 ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO BRING TO THE HOUSE, AND WE HAVE 339 00:10:44,078 --> 00:10:48,180 BRING TO THE HOUSE, AND WE HAVE HAD IT UP UNTIL NOW IS A SPACE 340 00:10:48,182 --> 00:10:49,348 HAD IT UP UNTIL NOW IS A SPACE WHERE WE CAN HAVE INTELLIGENT 341 00:10:49,350 --> 00:10:50,949 WHERE WE CAN HAVE INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION, LEGITIMATELY 342 00:10:50,951 --> 00:10:51,984 CONVERSATION, LEGITIMATELY DISAGREE AND SHAKE HANDS AND 343 00:10:51,986 --> 00:10:53,686 DISAGREE AND SHAKE HANDS AND WALK AWAY AND STILL WORK 344 00:10:53,688 --> 00:10:54,053 WALK AWAY AND STILL WORK TOGETHER. 345 00:10:54,055 --> 00:10:56,689 TOGETHER. >> WILL THIS ISSUE COME BACK IN 346 00:10:56,691 --> 00:10:58,557 >> WILL THIS ISSUE COME BACK IN A FEW YEARS, BECAUSE THE SENATE 347 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,494 A FEW YEARS, BECAUSE THE SENATE VERSION HAS IN IT A THREE-YEAR 348 00:11:02,496 --> 00:11:04,063 VERSION HAS IN IT A THREE-YEAR EXPIRATION OR SUN SET. 349 00:11:04,065 --> 00:11:05,898 EXPIRATION OR SUN SET. SUNSETTING IN 2017 I BELIEVE. 350 00:11:05,900 --> 00:11:06,598 SUNSETTING IN 2017 I BELIEVE. >> YES. 351 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,300 >> YES. >> WILL THAT BE IN THE HOUSE 352 00:11:08,302 --> 00:11:08,634 >> WILL THAT BE IN THE HOUSE VERSION? 353 00:11:08,636 --> 00:11:10,369 VERSION? AND IS THAT SOMETHING YOU AGREE 354 00:11:10,371 --> 00:11:10,703 AND IS THAT SOMETHING YOU AGREE WITH? 355 00:11:10,705 --> 00:11:11,937 WITH? >> I DO SUPPORT THAT. 356 00:11:11,939 --> 00:11:13,906 >> I DO SUPPORT THAT. I SUPPORT THE IDEA OF A SUNSET 357 00:11:13,908 --> 00:11:17,576 I SUPPORT THE IDEA OF A SUNSET SO WE CAN LOOK AT THIS PROGRAM, 358 00:11:17,578 --> 00:11:20,079 SO WE CAN LOOK AT THIS PROGRAM, DO WHAT IT SAYS IT IS DOING OR 359 00:11:20,081 --> 00:11:21,347 DO WHAT IT SAYS IT IS DOING OR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD COME 360 00:11:21,349 --> 00:11:21,613 DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD COME UP. 361 00:11:21,615 --> 00:11:22,948 UP. THIS GIVES US A CHANCE TO LOOK 362 00:11:22,950 --> 00:11:24,283 THIS GIVES US A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT OTHER THINGS WE'LL SEE 363 00:11:24,285 --> 00:11:26,452 AT THAT OTHER THINGS WE'LL SEE IN THE BILL AS WELL, THAT I HAVE 364 00:11:26,454 --> 00:11:28,153 IN THE BILL AS WELL, THAT I HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR FROM THE 365 00:11:28,155 --> 00:11:28,520 BEEN PUSHING FOR FROM THE BEGINNING. 366 00:11:28,522 --> 00:11:29,521 BEGINNING. >> WHAT OTHER THINGS COULD 367 00:11:29,523 --> 00:11:31,156 >> WHAT OTHER THINGS COULD HAPPEN IN RELATION TO THE BUDGET 368 00:11:31,158 --> 00:11:32,558 HAPPEN IN RELATION TO THE BUDGET AS A RESULT OF THIS? 369 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:35,594 AS A RESULT OF THIS? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE 370 00:11:35,596 --> 00:11:36,295 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS BEEN PUSHING IN 371 00:11:36,297 --> 00:11:38,764 GOVERNOR HAS BEEN PUSHING IN THIS REGARD IS IT FREES UP SOME 372 00:11:38,766 --> 00:11:40,833 THIS REGARD IS IT FREES UP SOME GENERAL FUND MONEY TO BE USED IN 373 00:11:40,835 --> 00:11:42,601 GENERAL FUND MONEY TO BE USED IN EDUCATION AND PERHAPS OTHER 374 00:11:42,603 --> 00:11:43,936 EDUCATION AND PERHAPS OTHER AREAS, PUBLIC SAFETY IS ONE OF 375 00:11:43,938 --> 00:11:45,738 AREAS, PUBLIC SAFETY IS ONE OF THE ONES SHE PUSHES. 376 00:11:45,740 --> 00:11:47,573 THE ONES SHE PUSHES. DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE MORE 377 00:11:47,575 --> 00:11:49,074 DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE MORE SPENDING IN THE BUDGET AS A 378 00:11:49,076 --> 00:11:49,775 SPENDING IN THE BUDGET AS A RESULT OF THIS? 379 00:11:49,777 --> 00:11:51,744 RESULT OF THIS? >> I THINK IF -- FOR EXAMPLE, IF 380 00:11:51,746 --> 00:11:54,680 >> I THINK IF -- FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU DON'T PASS THE MEDICAID, THE 381 00:11:54,682 --> 00:11:57,182 YOU DON'T PASS THE MEDICAID, THE IMMEDIATE HIT, $57 MILLION, THE 382 00:11:57,184 --> 00:11:58,283 IMMEDIATE HIT, $57 MILLION, THE WAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SET 383 00:11:58,285 --> 00:11:59,218 WAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SET UP THE FORMULA. 384 00:11:59,220 --> 00:12:00,819 UP THE FORMULA. ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS WITH 385 00:12:00,821 --> 00:12:01,787 ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS WITH THE ORIGINAL SENATE BUDGET 386 00:12:01,789 --> 00:12:02,988 THE ORIGINAL SENATE BUDGET BEFORE THE AMENDMENT AND ONE OF 387 00:12:02,990 --> 00:12:04,790 BEFORE THE AMENDMENT AND ONE OF THE REASONS I'M PUSHING MEDICAID 388 00:12:04,792 --> 00:12:07,526 THE REASONS I'M PUSHING MEDICAID AMONG OTHERS, WE HAVE $450 389 00:12:07,528 --> 00:12:09,461 AMONG OTHERS, WE HAVE $450 MILLION IN THE BANK IF WE DON'T 390 00:12:09,463 --> 00:12:11,797 MILLION IN THE BANK IF WE DON'T DO MEDICAID RESTORATION AND TRY 391 00:12:11,799 --> 00:12:14,166 DO MEDICAID RESTORATION AND TRY TO GO IT ALONE, WITHIN A YEAR 392 00:12:14,168 --> 00:12:15,734 TO GO IT ALONE, WITHIN A YEAR AND A HALF THAT IS AT ZERO. 393 00:12:15,736 --> 00:12:19,338 AND A HALF THAT IS AT ZERO. I'M NOT THE GUY THAT BANKS THE 394 00:12:19,340 --> 00:12:20,739 I'M NOT THE GUY THAT BANKS THE STATE, NOT THE ONE THAT TAKES 395 00:12:20,741 --> 00:12:22,441 STATE, NOT THE ONE THAT TAKES OUR FUND BALANCE TO ZERO IN A 396 00:12:22,443 --> 00:12:23,475 OUR FUND BALANCE TO ZERO IN A CREER AND A HALF. 397 00:12:23,477 --> 00:12:25,811 CREER AND A HALF. >> HOW DO YOU RECONCILE, IN JUST 398 00:12:25,813 --> 00:12:27,646 >> HOW DO YOU RECONCILE, IN JUST A FEW SECONDS THAT WE HAVE LEFT, 399 00:12:27,648 --> 00:12:30,115 A FEW SECONDS THAT WE HAVE LEFT, HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THE 400 00:12:30,117 --> 00:12:31,717 HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THE REPUBLICAN ARGUMENT THAT THIS 401 00:12:31,719 --> 00:12:33,152 REPUBLICAN ARGUMENT THAT THIS ADDS TO FEDERAL FISCAL PROBLEMS? 402 00:12:33,154 --> 00:12:34,687 ADDS TO FEDERAL FISCAL PROBLEMS? >> ONE THING INTERESTING, A 403 00:12:34,689 --> 00:12:36,588 >> ONE THING INTERESTING, A FEDERAL SOLUTION NEEDS TO BE 404 00:12:36,590 --> 00:12:38,524 FEDERAL SOLUTION NEEDS TO BE ENACTED FEDERALLY, IF YOU COULD 405 00:12:38,526 --> 00:12:40,359 ENACTED FEDERALLY, IF YOU COULD SHOW ME BY NOT DOING THIS, A 406 00:12:40,361 --> 00:12:42,594 SHOW ME BY NOT DOING THIS, A SINGLE PERSON'S TAXES WOULD GO 407 00:12:42,596 --> 00:12:43,762 SINGLE PERSON'S TAXES WOULD GO DOWN, OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT 408 00:12:43,764 --> 00:12:46,265 DOWN, OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD BORROW A SINGLE LESS 409 00:12:46,267 --> 00:12:47,866 WOULD BORROW A SINGLE LESS DOLLAR, WE'D HAVE A DEBATE. 410 00:12:47,868 --> 00:12:50,669 DOLLAR, WE'D HAVE A DEBATE. COUPLING THE ARGUMENTS TOGETHER 411 00:12:50,671 --> 00:12:51,837 COUPLING THE ARGUMENTS TOGETHER HAVE YOU CREATED A FALSE 412 00:12:51,839 --> 00:12:52,204 HAVE YOU CREATED A FALSE ARGUMENT. 413 00:12:52,206 --> 00:12:54,840 ARGUMENT. >> REPRESENTATIVE ETHAN OR, 414 00:12:54,842 --> 00:12:58,210 >> REPRESENTATIVE ETHAN OR, REPUBLICAN FROM TUCSON'S NINTH 415 00:12:58,212 --> 00:12:58,577 REPUBLICAN FROM TUCSON'S NINTH DISTRICT. 416 00:12:58,579 --> 00:12:59,411 DISTRICT. THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING WITH ME. 417 00:12:59,413 --> 00:13:00,646 THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING WITH ME. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 418 00:13:00,648 --> 00:13:02,781 >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> DEMOCRATS DON'T HAVE MUDGE 419 00:13:02,783 --> 00:13:04,683 >> DEMOCRATS DON'T HAVE MUDGE LEGISLATIVE SWAY IN ARIZONA, BUT 420 00:13:04,685 --> 00:13:07,786 LEGISLATIVE SWAY IN ARIZONA, BUT LAST WEEK, ALL 13 SENATE 421 00:13:07,788 --> 00:13:10,856 LAST WEEK, ALL 13 SENATE DEMOCRATS, PLUS A HAHNFUL FUHA 422 00:13:10,858 --> 00:13:14,360 DEMOCRATS, PLUS A HAHNFUL FUHA REPUBLICANS, PASSED MEDICAID. 423 00:13:14,362 --> 00:13:17,429 REPUBLICANS, PASSED MEDICAID. WILL IT BE THE SAME IN THE 424 00:13:17,431 --> 00:13:17,796 WILL IT BE THE SAME IN THE HOUSE? 425 00:13:17,798 --> 00:13:19,598 HOUSE? BRUCE WHEELER JOINS US, HE'S 426 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:20,065 BRUCE WHEELER JOINS US, HE'S HOUSE WHIP. 427 00:13:20,067 --> 00:13:21,100 HOUSE WHIP. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 428 00:13:21,102 --> 00:13:23,068 >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. >> WILL THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS IN 429 00:13:23,070 --> 00:13:25,070 >> WILL THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS IN THE HOUSE STAY UNITED AND SOLID 430 00:13:25,072 --> 00:13:26,205 THE HOUSE STAY UNITED AND SOLID BEHIND MEDICAID EXPANSION? 431 00:13:26,207 --> 00:13:27,673 BEHIND MEDICAID EXPANSION? >> ABSOLUTELY. 432 00:13:27,675 --> 00:13:32,711 >> ABSOLUTELY. PROVIDED THERE ARE NO 433 00:13:32,713 --> 00:13:33,312 PROVIDED THERE ARE NO MISCHIEVOUS MOVES, LIKE 434 00:13:33,314 --> 00:13:33,979 MISCHIEVOUS MOVES, LIKE RIDICULOUS EXTREME ABORTION 435 00:13:33,981 --> 00:13:35,147 RIDICULOUS EXTREME ABORTION LANGUAGE, YES, WE ARE UNITED. 436 00:13:35,149 --> 00:13:36,949 LANGUAGE, YES, WE ARE UNITED. >> TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. 437 00:13:36,951 --> 00:13:39,251 >> TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. ABORTION LANGUAGE, SOME TALK OF 438 00:13:39,253 --> 00:13:40,719 ABORTION LANGUAGE, SOME TALK OF THAT, WHERE ARE WE ON THAT 439 00:13:40,721 --> 00:13:41,020 THAT, WHERE ARE WE ON THAT ISSUE? 440 00:13:41,022 --> 00:13:42,955 ISSUE? >> THE GOVERNOR AND MOST PEOPLE 441 00:13:42,957 --> 00:13:44,223 >> THE GOVERNOR AND MOST PEOPLE CONCERNED ON THIS ISSUE 442 00:13:44,225 --> 00:13:45,891 CONCERNED ON THIS ISSUE UNDERSTAND THAT THE ABORTION 443 00:13:45,893 --> 00:13:47,459 UNDERSTAND THAT THE ABORTION ISSUE ISN'T GOING TO GO 444 00:13:47,461 --> 00:13:48,293 ISSUE ISN'T GOING TO GO ANYWHERE. 445 00:13:48,295 --> 00:13:49,528 ANYWHERE. THE COURTS HAVE ALREADY RULED ON 446 00:13:49,530 --> 00:13:51,263 THE COURTS HAVE ALREADY RULED ON THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THAT 447 00:13:51,265 --> 00:13:52,965 THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THAT ISSUE, SO WE THINK THAT IT WILL 448 00:13:52,967 --> 00:13:54,466 ISSUE, SO WE THINK THAT IT WILL NOT BE ON THERE, BUT WE 449 00:13:54,468 --> 00:13:56,635 NOT BE ON THERE, BUT WE ALWAYS -- YOU NEVER KNOW AND SO 450 00:13:56,637 --> 00:13:58,237 ALWAYS -- YOU NEVER KNOW AND SO WE'RE PREPARED TO ADDRESS THAT 451 00:13:58,239 --> 00:14:00,406 WE'RE PREPARED TO ADDRESS THAT IF IT COMES UP. 452 00:14:00,408 --> 00:14:02,007 IF IT COMES UP. WE DON'T THINK ABORTION LANGUAGE 453 00:14:02,009 --> 00:14:03,709 WE DON'T THINK ABORTION LANGUAGE WILL BE IN THERE AND, THEREFORE, 454 00:14:03,711 --> 00:14:05,844 WILL BE IN THERE AND, THEREFORE, WE THINK WE ARE UNITED. 455 00:14:05,846 --> 00:14:08,547 WE THINK WE ARE UNITED. >> THE QUICK EXPLAINER WAS THAT 456 00:14:08,549 --> 00:14:10,582 >> THE QUICK EXPLAINER WAS THAT ON FEDERAL RULES, MEDICAID IS 457 00:14:10,584 --> 00:14:14,853 ON FEDERAL RULES, MEDICAID IS ALLOWED TO -- MEDICAID FOR 458 00:14:14,855 --> 00:14:15,587 ALLOWED TO -- MEDICAID FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS ALLOWED, 459 00:14:15,589 --> 00:14:16,488 PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS ALLOWED, IS THAT CORRECT? 460 00:14:16,490 --> 00:14:17,156 IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. 461 00:14:17,158 --> 00:14:19,892 >> THAT'S CORRECT. THE ARGUMENT IS BECAUSE PLANNED 462 00:14:19,894 --> 00:14:21,093 THE ARGUMENT IS BECAUSE PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS INVOLVED IN 463 00:14:21,095 --> 00:14:22,094 PARENTHOOD IS INVOLVED IN PERFORMING ABORTIONS THAT THEY 464 00:14:22,096 --> 00:14:23,595 PERFORMING ABORTIONS THAT THEY SHOULD NOT RECEIVE ANY FUNDS FOR 465 00:14:23,597 --> 00:14:25,864 SHOULD NOT RECEIVE ANY FUNDS FOR ANY HEALTH CARE MATTERS AND THE 466 00:14:25,866 --> 00:14:28,000 ANY HEALTH CARE MATTERS AND THE COURTS SAID, NO, NOT AS LONG AS 467 00:14:28,002 --> 00:14:30,369 COURTS SAID, NO, NOT AS LONG AS IT'S A LEGITIMATE HEALTH CARE 468 00:14:30,371 --> 00:14:32,137 IT'S A LEGITIMATE HEALTH CARE PROVIDER, IT CANNOT BE TARGETED 469 00:14:32,139 --> 00:14:34,540 PROVIDER, IT CANNOT BE TARGETED SPECIFICALLY THE WAY THEY WERE 470 00:14:34,542 --> 00:14:35,240 SPECIFICALLY THE WAY THEY WERE LAST YEAR BY THE LEGISLATURE. 471 00:14:35,242 --> 00:14:36,575 LAST YEAR BY THE LEGISLATURE. >> AND THAT'S THE DEMOCRATIC 472 00:14:36,577 --> 00:14:39,445 >> AND THAT'S THE DEMOCRATIC POSITION AS FAR AS SUPPORTING 473 00:14:39,447 --> 00:14:39,812 POSITION AS FAR AS SUPPORTING MEDICAID. 474 00:14:39,814 --> 00:14:41,046 MEDICAID. AS LONG AS THE LANGUAGE ISN'T IN 475 00:14:41,048 --> 00:14:41,347 AS LONG AS THE LANGUAGE ISN'T IN THERE? 476 00:14:41,349 --> 00:14:42,014 THERE? >> CORRECT. 477 00:14:42,016 --> 00:14:44,717 >> CORRECT. >> IS THERE ANY OTHER THING THAT 478 00:14:44,719 --> 00:14:47,353 >> IS THERE ANY OTHER THING THAT COULD COME UP IN THE AMENDMENT 479 00:14:47,355 --> 00:14:48,220 COULD COME UP IN THE AMENDMENT PROCESS OR IN THE COMMITTEE 480 00:14:48,222 --> 00:14:50,622 PROCESS OR IN THE COMMITTEE PROCESS THAT COULD CAUSE 481 00:14:50,624 --> 00:14:51,790 PROCESS THAT COULD CAUSE DEMOCRATS TO PAUSE? 482 00:14:51,792 --> 00:14:54,860 DEMOCRATS TO PAUSE? >> WELL, WE'LL WAIT AND SEE. 483 00:14:54,862 --> 00:14:56,895 >> WELL, WE'LL WAIT AND SEE. THERE IS SOME COLLATERAL 484 00:14:56,897 --> 00:15:02,935 THERE IS SOME COLLATERAL INSURANCE ISSUES, TORT REFORM, 485 00:15:02,937 --> 00:15:03,369 INSURANCE ISSUES, TORT REFORM, QUOTE-UNQUOTE. 486 00:15:03,371 --> 00:15:04,937 QUOTE-UNQUOTE. WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT 487 00:15:04,939 --> 00:15:06,672 WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT LATELY. 488 00:15:06,674 --> 00:15:08,374 THAT LATELY. WE ARE UNITED ON REACHING ACROSS 489 00:15:08,376 --> 00:15:11,010 WE ARE UNITED ON REACHING ACROSS TO THE OTHER SIDE TO MAKE SURE 490 00:15:11,012 --> 00:15:12,177 TO THE OTHER SIDE TO MAKE SURE NO MAJOR CHANGES WILL TAKE PLACE 491 00:15:12,179 --> 00:15:13,645 NO MAJOR CHANGES WILL TAKE PLACE FROM THE BILLS SENT OVER FROM 492 00:15:13,647 --> 00:15:14,313 FROM THE BILLS SENT OVER FROM THE SENATE. 493 00:15:14,315 --> 00:15:15,614 THE SENATE. THAT'S KEY AND CRITICAL. 494 00:15:15,616 --> 00:15:16,982 THAT'S KEY AND CRITICAL. >> WHEN DO YOU EXPECT MOVEMENT 495 00:15:16,984 --> 00:15:18,617 >> WHEN DO YOU EXPECT MOVEMENT TO BEGIN ON THIS IN THE HOUSE? 496 00:15:18,619 --> 00:15:20,285 TO BEGIN ON THIS IN THE HOUSE? >> WE HOPE SO BY TUESDAY, FIRST 497 00:15:20,287 --> 00:15:22,388 >> WE HOPE SO BY TUESDAY, FIRST DAY WE GO BACK NEXT WEEK, AND 498 00:15:22,390 --> 00:15:24,423 DAY WE GO BACK NEXT WEEK, AND WE'RE NOT SURE YET WHETHER THE 499 00:15:24,425 --> 00:15:26,592 WE'RE NOT SURE YET WHETHER THE BILLS THAT CAME OVER FROM THE 500 00:15:26,594 --> 00:15:28,293 BILLS THAT CAME OVER FROM THE SENATE HAVE TO GO TO THE 501 00:15:28,295 --> 00:15:29,028 SENATE HAVE TO GO TO THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE FIRST. 502 00:15:29,030 --> 00:15:30,496 APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE FIRST. IF THEY DO, THEY WILL PROBABLY 503 00:15:30,498 --> 00:15:33,966 IF THEY DO, THEY WILL PROBABLY BE STRIPPED OUT OF MANY 504 00:15:33,968 --> 00:15:35,200 BE STRIPPED OUT OF MANY AMENDMENTS PUT THROUGH IN THE 505 00:15:35,202 --> 00:15:35,534 AMENDMENTS PUT THROUGH IN THE SENATE. 506 00:15:35,536 --> 00:15:38,170 SENATE. THERE ARE M@ANISMS, WE HAVE 507 00:15:38,172 --> 00:15:39,772 THERE ARE M@ANISMS, WE HAVE MAINTAINED THE MAJORITY OF 31 OR 508 00:15:39,774 --> 00:15:41,740 MAINTAINED THE MAJORITY OF 31 OR MORE, WHICH AT THIS POINT WE DO 509 00:15:41,742 --> 00:15:44,143 MORE, WHICH AT THIS POINT WE DO HAVE, FOR THOSE BILLS TO GO ON 510 00:15:44,145 --> 00:15:45,277 HAVE, FOR THOSE BILLS TO GO ON THROUGH THE FLOOR THROUGH 511 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:46,712 THROUGH THE FLOOR THROUGH DIFFERENT TYPES OF MANEUVERS, 512 00:15:46,714 --> 00:15:48,714 DIFFERENT TYPES OF MANEUVERS, THE PLAN TO PUT THOSE AMENDMENTS 513 00:15:48,716 --> 00:15:50,149 THE PLAN TO PUT THOSE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE PASSED IN THE SENATE 514 00:15:50,151 --> 00:15:52,785 THAT WERE PASSED IN THE SENATE BACK ON TO THE BILLS IN THE 515 00:15:52,787 --> 00:15:53,085 BACK ON TO THE BILLS IN THE HOUSE. 516 00:15:53,087 --> 00:15:54,887 HOUSE. >> WHAT ABOUT SPEAKER TOBIN'S 517 00:15:54,889 --> 00:15:56,121 >> WHAT ABOUT SPEAKER TOBIN'S PROPOSAL THAT THIS GO TO THE 518 00:15:56,123 --> 00:15:57,189 PROPOSAL THAT THIS GO TO THE VOTERS IN THE SPECIAL ELECTION 519 00:15:57,191 --> 00:15:58,057 VOTERS IN THE SPECIAL ELECTION IN THE FALL. 520 00:15:58,059 --> 00:15:59,525 IN THE FALL. DOES THAT HAVE ANY LEGS IN THE 521 00:15:59,527 --> 00:15:59,825 DOES THAT HAVE ANY LEGS IN THE HOUSE? 522 00:15:59,827 --> 00:16:01,427 HOUSE? >> I DON'T THINK SO MICHAEL. 523 00:16:01,429 --> 00:16:04,863 >> I DON'T THINK SO MICHAEL. I THINK AT THIS POINT HE -- HE 524 00:16:04,865 --> 00:16:06,799 I THINK AT THIS POINT HE -- HE PROBABLY RECOGNIZES TOO THAT THE 525 00:16:06,801 --> 00:16:08,667 PROBABLY RECOGNIZES TOO THAT THE VOTES JUST AREN'T THERE AND SO 526 00:16:08,669 --> 00:16:10,436 VOTES JUST AREN'T THERE AND SO HE'S GOING TO PROBABLY TRY AND 527 00:16:10,438 --> 00:16:14,206 HE'S GOING TO PROBABLY TRY AND GET SOME CONCESSIONS OUT OF WHAT 528 00:16:14,208 --> 00:16:14,973 GET SOME CONCESSIONS OUT OF WHAT HE WANTS. 529 00:16:14,975 --> 00:16:17,543 HE WANTS. >> WHAT -- WHAT DOES THIS DO FOR 530 00:16:17,545 --> 00:16:20,312 >> WHAT -- WHAT DOES THIS DO FOR THE BUDGET IN THE LARGER SENSE? 531 00:16:20,314 --> 00:16:22,881 THE BUDGET IN THE LARGER SENSE? ANY ROOM MANEUVERING THERE? 532 00:16:22,883 --> 00:16:24,183 ANY ROOM MANEUVERING THERE? THE GOVERNOR SAYS AND THE 533 00:16:24,185 --> 00:16:26,285 THE GOVERNOR SAYS AND THE NUMBERS SHOW COMING OUT OF THE 534 00:16:26,287 --> 00:16:27,953 NUMBERS SHOW COMING OUT OF THE SENATE, THAT INCLUDING THE 535 00:16:27,955 --> 00:16:29,755 SENATE, THAT INCLUDING THE MEDICAID EXPANSION IN THE BUDGET 536 00:16:29,757 --> 00:16:31,457 MEDICAID EXPANSION IN THE BUDGET PROVIDES MORE STATE FUNDING IN 537 00:16:31,459 --> 00:16:32,524 PROVIDES MORE STATE FUNDING IN THE FEDERAL FUND. 538 00:16:32,526 --> 00:16:34,526 THE FEDERAL FUND. WILL DEMOCRATS TRY TO PLAY THAT 539 00:16:34,528 --> 00:16:36,462 WILL DEMOCRATS TRY TO PLAY THAT SOMEHOW TO GET MORE FUNDING FOR, 540 00:16:36,464 --> 00:16:37,396 SOMEHOW TO GET MORE FUNDING FOR, SAY, EDUCATION? 541 00:16:37,398 --> 00:16:39,631 SAY, EDUCATION? >> HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK SO, 542 00:16:39,633 --> 00:16:42,501 >> HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK SO, AND THE REASON IS, DEMOCRATS, 543 00:16:42,503 --> 00:16:43,569 AND THE REASON IS, DEMOCRATS, AND BASICALLY HAPPY WITH THE 544 00:16:43,571 --> 00:16:45,371 AND BASICALLY HAPPY WITH THE BILL THAT CAME OVER FROM THE 545 00:16:45,373 --> 00:16:45,704 BILL THAT CAME OVER FROM THE SENATE. 546 00:16:45,706 --> 00:16:47,840 SENATE. AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, EVEN 547 00:16:47,842 --> 00:16:49,608 AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, EVEN WHEN IT'S A REPUBLICAN TRYING TO 548 00:16:49,610 --> 00:16:52,011 WHEN IT'S A REPUBLICAN TRYING TO ADD THINGS OR TAKE THINGS OFF OR 549 00:16:52,013 --> 00:16:56,882 ADD THINGS OR TAKE THINGS OFF OR THE DEMOCRATS ADDING MORE FOR 550 00:16:56,884 --> 00:16:57,983 THE DEMOCRATS ADDING MORE FOR EDUCATION, THERE SHOULD BE MORE 551 00:16:57,985 --> 00:17:00,352 EDUCATION, THERE SHOULD BE MORE FOR EDUCATION, BUT THERE SHOULD 552 00:17:00,354 --> 00:17:01,820 FOR EDUCATION, BUT THERE SHOULD BE MORE THAN WHAT'S THERE RIGHT 553 00:17:01,822 --> 00:17:02,354 BE MORE THAN WHAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW. 554 00:17:02,356 --> 00:17:03,756 NOW. TRYING TO TAMPER ANYTHING 555 00:17:03,758 --> 00:17:05,224 TRYING TO TAMPER ANYTHING FURTHER WOULD JEOPARDIZE 556 00:17:05,226 --> 00:17:06,258 FURTHER WOULD JEOPARDIZE EVERYTHING AND THAT'S NOT A RISK 557 00:17:06,260 --> 00:17:07,192 EVERYTHING AND THAT'S NOT A RISK WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE. 558 00:17:07,194 --> 00:17:08,994 WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE. >> DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT HAD A 559 00:17:08,996 --> 00:17:10,462 >> DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT HAD A MAJORITY ON THE HOUSE OF 560 00:17:10,464 --> 00:17:11,730 MAJORITY ON THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IN ARIZONA IN 561 00:17:11,732 --> 00:17:13,098 REPRESENTATIVES IN ARIZONA IN MORE THAN FOUR DECADES. 562 00:17:13,100 --> 00:17:14,400 MORE THAN FOUR DECADES. >> THAT'S CORRECT. 563 00:17:14,402 --> 00:17:15,968 >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, 564 00:17:15,970 --> 00:17:17,102 >> AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, DEMOCRATS ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF 565 00:17:17,104 --> 00:17:21,540 DEMOCRATS ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME AS FAR AS ARIZONA 566 00:17:21,542 --> 00:17:22,975 THE GAME AS FAR AS ARIZONA POLITICS GO, AND IS THERE A 567 00:17:22,977 --> 00:17:24,343 POLITICS GO, AND IS THERE A DYNAMIC BEING CREATED THAT COULD 568 00:17:24,345 --> 00:17:25,511 DYNAMIC BEING CREATED THAT COULD CARRY INTO OTHEL ISSUES. 569 00:17:25,513 --> 00:17:28,147 CARRY INTO OTHEL ISSUES. >> I WOULD HOPE SO, BUT I TELL 570 00:17:28,149 --> 00:17:30,082 >> I WOULD HOPE SO, BUT I TELL PEOPLE, WE DEMOCRATS ARE FINALLY 571 00:17:30,084 --> 00:17:31,116 PEOPLE, WE DEMOCRATS ARE FINALLY RELEVANT, WE ARE NECESSARY TO 572 00:17:31,118 --> 00:17:33,218 RELEVANT, WE ARE NECESSARY TO GET THE GOVERNOR'S MEDICAID 573 00:17:33,220 --> 00:17:34,720 GET THE GOVERNOR'S MEDICAID PROGRAM THROUGH, WE'RE MORE THAN 574 00:17:34,722 --> 00:17:36,622 PROGRAM THROUGH, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT. 575 00:17:36,624 --> 00:17:39,458 HAPPY TO DO THAT. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US 576 00:17:39,460 --> 00:17:41,060 EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US CAMPAIGNED HOPING EXPAND 577 00:17:41,062 --> 00:17:44,363 CAMPAIGNED HOPING EXPAND MEDICAID TO 133% TO THE FEDERAL 578 00:17:44,365 --> 00:17:44,963 MEDICAID TO 133% TO THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL. 579 00:17:44,965 --> 00:17:47,333 POVERTY LEVEL. THAT IS OUR ISSUE AND WHETHER IT 580 00:17:47,335 --> 00:17:48,534 THAT IS OUR ISSUE AND WHETHER IT TRANSLATES TO COOPERATING AND TO 581 00:17:48,536 --> 00:17:50,636 TRANSLATES TO COOPERATING AND TO OTHER ISSUES, ONE WOULD HOPE SO. 582 00:17:50,638 --> 00:17:53,539 OTHER ISSUES, ONE WOULD HOPE SO. BUT THE DYNAMIC THEN CHANGES, 583 00:17:53,541 --> 00:17:55,474 BUT THE DYNAMIC THEN CHANGES, BECAUSE NEXT YEAR WE WON'T BE 584 00:17:55,476 --> 00:17:57,076 BECAUSE NEXT YEAR WE WON'T BE DEALING WITH MEDICAID AGAIN AND 585 00:17:57,078 --> 00:18:00,546 DEALING WITH MEDICAID AGAIN AND BACK TO THE SAME ISSUES AND IT'S 586 00:18:00,548 --> 00:18:01,046 BACK TO THE SAME ISSUES AND IT'S AN ELECTION YEAR. 587 00:18:01,048 --> 00:18:02,448 AN ELECTION YEAR. >> ONE OF THE ISSUES IS 588 00:18:02,450 --> 00:18:04,383 >> ONE OF THE ISSUES IS EDUCATION FUNNING, DEMOCRATS 589 00:18:04,385 --> 00:18:05,451 EDUCATION FUNNING, DEMOCRATS PRETTY SOLID ON. 590 00:18:05,453 --> 00:18:07,853 PRETTY SOLID ON. NEEDS TO BE RESTORED, AND 591 00:18:07,855 --> 00:18:08,654 NEEDS TO BE RESTORED, AND REPUBLICANS SAID WE DON'T HAVE 592 00:18:08,656 --> 00:18:09,521 REPUBLICANS SAID WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY YET. 593 00:18:09,523 --> 00:18:11,724 THE MONEY YET. FIRST OF ALL, IS THE MONEY 594 00:18:11,726 --> 00:18:12,124 FIRST OF ALL, IS THE MONEY THERE? 595 00:18:12,126 --> 00:18:13,625 THERE? SECOND, COULD THAT BE AN ISSUE 596 00:18:13,627 --> 00:18:15,327 SECOND, COULD THAT BE AN ISSUE ON WHICH A COALITION, SUCH AS 597 00:18:15,329 --> 00:18:16,195 ON WHICH A COALITION, SUCH AS THIS COULD BE FORMED? 598 00:18:16,197 --> 00:18:17,997 THIS COULD BE FORMED? >> THE MONEY IS THERE. 599 00:18:17,999 --> 00:18:19,431 >> THE MONEY IS THERE. THE COALITION COULD BE FORMED. 600 00:18:19,433 --> 00:18:21,000 THE COALITION COULD BE FORMED. I DON'T KNOW IT WILL BE FORMED, 601 00:18:21,002 --> 00:18:22,368 I DON'T KNOW IT WILL BE FORMED, AND THE MONEY THERE IN THE TUNE 602 00:18:22,370 --> 00:18:24,770 AND THE MONEY THERE IN THE TUNE OF $450 MILLION THERE RIGHT NOW 603 00:18:24,772 --> 00:18:26,972 OF $450 MILLION THERE RIGHT NOW LEFT OVER FROM THIS FISCAL YEAR. 604 00:18:26,974 --> 00:18:27,840 LEFT OVER FROM THIS FISCAL YEAR. EXCUSE ME. 605 00:18:27,842 --> 00:18:29,942 EXCUSE ME. LAST FISCAL YEAR, AND THERE WILL 606 00:18:29,944 --> 00:18:33,345 LAST FISCAL YEAR, AND THERE WILL BE $716 MILLION LEFT, SURPLUS 607 00:18:33,347 --> 00:18:34,446 BE $716 MILLION LEFT, SURPLUS FROM THIS FISCAL YEAR. 608 00:18:34,448 --> 00:18:36,949 FROM THIS FISCAL YEAR. OVER 1$1.1 BILLION. 609 00:18:36,951 --> 00:18:39,151 OVER 1$1.1 BILLION. EVEN IF MEDICAID PASSES, WE 610 00:18:39,153 --> 00:18:42,521 EVEN IF MEDICAID PASSES, WE ANTICIPATE IT WILL, BY 2016, A 611 00:18:42,523 --> 00:18:45,157 ANTICIPATE IT WILL, BY 2016, A SURPLUS -- STRUCTURAL SURPLUS OF 612 00:18:45,159 --> 00:18:48,594 SURPLUS -- STRUCTURAL SURPLUS OF $60 MILLION. 613 00:18:48,596 --> 00:18:50,963 $60 MILLION. WHEREAS IN PRESIDENT BIG'S 614 00:18:50,965 --> 00:18:55,968 WHEREAS IN PRESIDENT BIG'S DEFICIT BILL BY 2016. 615 00:18:55,970 --> 00:18:58,170 DEFICIT BILL BY 2016. FISCAL CONSERVATIVES AND 616 00:18:58,172 --> 00:19:00,673 FISCAL CONSERVATIVES AND CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND MANY 617 00:19:00,675 --> 00:19:02,074 CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND MANY OTHER BUSINESS GROUPS ENDORSE 618 00:19:02,076 --> 00:19:03,742 OTHER BUSINESS GROUPS ENDORSE THE MEDICAID EXPANSION. 619 00:19:03,744 --> 00:19:06,845 THE MEDICAID EXPANSION. >> REPRESENTATIVE BRUCE WHEELER, 620 00:19:06,847 --> 00:19:08,914 >> REPRESENTATIVE BRUCE WHEELER, DEMOCRAT FROM TUCSON'S TENTH 621 00:19:08,916 --> 00:19:09,615 DEMOCRAT FROM TUCSON'S TENTH DISTRICT AND MINORITY WHIP IN 622 00:19:09,617 --> 00:19:10,816 DISTRICT AND MINORITY WHIP IN THE HOUSE, THANK YOU FOR 623 00:19:10,818 --> 00:19:12,117 THE HOUSE, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING WITH ME. 624 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,285 SPEAKING WITH ME. >> THANK YOU, MICHAEL, FOR 625 00:19:13,287 --> 00:19:15,220 >> THANK YOU, MICHAEL, FOR HAVING ME. 626 00:19:15,222 --> 00:19:20,693 HAVING ME. >>> NOW, LUIGE DELL PUERTO. 627 00:19:20,695 --> 00:19:21,927 >>> NOW, LUIGE DELL PUERTO. WELCOME, LUIGE. 628 00:19:21,929 --> 00:19:23,395 WELCOME, LUIGE. >> THANKS, MICHAEL. 629 00:19:23,397 --> 00:19:24,930 >> THANKS, MICHAEL. >> WILL WE SEE A BREAK THROUGH 630 00:19:24,932 --> 00:19:26,932 >> WILL WE SEE A BREAK THROUGH IN THE HOUSE ANY TIME SOON? 631 00:19:26,934 --> 00:19:28,767 IN THE HOUSE ANY TIME SOON? NEXT WEEK, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE 632 00:19:28,769 --> 00:19:30,035 NEXT WEEK, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE MEDICAID EXPANSION AND THE 633 00:19:30,037 --> 00:19:30,369 MEDICAID EXPANSION AND THE BUDGET? 634 00:19:30,371 --> 00:19:32,671 BUDGET? >> WELL, IT'S UNLIKELY THAT WE 635 00:19:32,673 --> 00:19:34,506 >> WELL, IT'S UNLIKELY THAT WE WILL SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN NEXT 636 00:19:34,508 --> 00:19:36,408 WILL SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN NEXT WEEK. 637 00:19:36,410 --> 00:19:38,010 WEEK. IT'S POSSIBLE THAT -- RIGHT NOW, 638 00:19:38,012 --> 00:19:39,144 IT'S POSSIBLE THAT -- RIGHT NOW, WHAT'S GOING ON? 639 00:19:39,146 --> 00:19:40,946 WHAT'S GOING ON? HOUSE SPEAKER ANDY TOBIN TRYING 640 00:19:40,948 --> 00:19:42,815 HOUSE SPEAKER ANDY TOBIN TRYING TO GET THE VOTES FOR HIS 641 00:19:42,817 --> 00:19:44,950 TO GET THE VOTES FOR HIS ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL, WHICH IS 642 00:19:44,952 --> 00:19:47,586 ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL, WHICH IS TO SEND THE MEDICAID EXPANSION 643 00:19:47,588 --> 00:19:50,656 TO SEND THE MEDICAID EXPANSION QUESTION TO VOTERS, AND SO HE IS 644 00:19:50,658 --> 00:19:52,124 QUESTION TO VOTERS, AND SO HE IS TRYING TO GET THE VOTES FOR 645 00:19:52,126 --> 00:19:52,424 TRYING TO GET THE VOTES FOR THAT. 646 00:19:52,426 --> 00:19:54,059 THAT. WHAT WE'RE HEARING SO FAR, IT'S 647 00:19:54,061 --> 00:19:55,995 WHAT WE'RE HEARING SO FAR, IT'S NOT THE VOTES IN THIS CHAMBER 648 00:19:55,997 --> 00:19:57,629 NOT THE VOTES IN THIS CHAMBER AND PRETTY MUCH DOA IN THE 649 00:19:57,631 --> 00:19:59,131 AND PRETTY MUCH DOA IN THE SENATE AS WELL. 650 00:19:59,133 --> 00:20:01,433 SENATE AS WELL. >> WHAT -- WHAT DOES HE HAVE 651 00:20:01,435 --> 00:20:01,734 >> WHAT -- WHAT DOES HE HAVE THERE? 652 00:20:01,736 --> 00:20:03,202 THERE? WILL HE GIVE UP ON THAT? 653 00:20:03,204 --> 00:20:05,137 WILL HE GIVE UP ON THAT? OR TRY TO AMEND IN THAT REGARD 654 00:20:05,139 --> 00:20:07,439 OR TRY TO AMEND IN THAT REGARD AND PUSH A BILL THROUGH? 655 00:20:07,441 --> 00:20:10,609 AND PUSH A BILL THROUGH? >> WELL, THERE -- THERE IS 656 00:20:10,611 --> 00:20:12,277 >> WELL, THERE -- THERE IS VARIOUS SPECULATION ABOUT WHAT 657 00:20:12,279 --> 00:20:13,579 VARIOUS SPECULATION ABOUT WHAT SPEAKER TOBIN IS REALLY WANTING 658 00:20:13,581 --> 00:20:15,481 SPEAKER TOBIN IS REALLY WANTING TO DO, AND ONE OF THEM IS HE 659 00:20:15,483 --> 00:20:17,683 TO DO, AND ONE OF THEM IS HE MIGHT JUST WANT TO SHOW THAT HE 660 00:20:17,685 --> 00:20:19,418 MIGHT JUST WANT TO SHOW THAT HE TRIED HIS BEST. 661 00:20:19,420 --> 00:20:21,653 TRIED HIS BEST. YOU KNOW, TO PUSH HIS 662 00:20:21,655 --> 00:20:22,855 YOU KNOW, TO PUSH HIS ALTERNATIVE AND HE WOULD SAY, 663 00:20:22,857 --> 00:20:24,289 ALTERNATIVE AND HE WOULD SAY, OKAY, GUYS, I TRIED. 664 00:20:24,291 --> 00:20:25,958 OKAY, GUYS, I TRIED. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT, AND 665 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,393 THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT, AND SO THE ONLY OPTION LEFT IS 666 00:20:27,395 --> 00:20:30,195 SO THE ONLY OPTION LEFT IS REALLY THE GOVERNOR'S OPTION. 667 00:20:30,197 --> 00:20:32,998 REALLY THE GOVERNOR'S OPTION. BUT, OF COURSE, HE IS WORKING 668 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,433 BUT, OF COURSE, HE IS WORKING IT, WHAT THE INDICATIONS THAT 669 00:20:34,435 --> 00:20:38,470 IT, WHAT THE INDICATIONS THAT WE'RE GETTING THIS FAR IS THAT 670 00:20:38,472 --> 00:20:41,006 WE'RE GETTING THIS FAR IS THAT THE GROUPS HE HAS SPOKEN TO, 671 00:20:41,008 --> 00:20:42,608 THE GROUPS HE HAS SPOKEN TO, WHILE THEY APPRECIATE ALL THE 672 00:20:42,610 --> 00:20:45,077 WHILE THEY APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORTS DONE, THAT HE HAS A 673 00:20:45,079 --> 00:20:46,278 EFFORTS DONE, THAT HE HAS A COUNTERPROPOSAL AND TRYING TO 674 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,747 COUNTERPROPOSAL AND TRYING TO RESOLVE THE BIG POLICY DEBATE, 675 00:20:48,749 --> 00:20:50,315 RESOLVE THE BIG POLICY DEBATE, THEY ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THAT, 676 00:20:50,317 --> 00:20:53,352 THEY ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THAT, BUT ALSO THEY ARE STICKING WITH 677 00:20:53,354 --> 00:20:55,120 BUT ALSO THEY ARE STICKING WITH OR SIDING WITH THE GOVERNOR, AND 678 00:20:55,122 --> 00:21:01,327 OR SIDING WITH THE GOVERNOR, AND THAT'S BASICALLY TO EXPAND THE 679 00:21:01,329 --> 00:21:03,295 THAT'S BASICALLY TO EXPAND THE MEDICAID BY USING A HOSPITAL 680 00:21:03,297 --> 00:21:05,564 MEDICAID BY USING A HOSPITAL ASSESSMENT AND USING REVENUE FOR 681 00:21:05,566 --> 00:21:07,633 ASSESSMENT AND USING REVENUE FOR THOSE TO DRAW DOWN FEDERAL 682 00:21:07,635 --> 00:21:08,100 THOSE TO DRAW DOWN FEDERAL DOLLARS. 683 00:21:08,102 --> 00:21:10,002 DOLLARS. >> THERE IS STILL A GROUP OF 684 00:21:10,004 --> 00:21:11,804 >> THERE IS STILL A GROUP OF REPUBLICANS WHO ARE OPPOSED TO 685 00:21:11,806 --> 00:21:14,073 REPUBLICANS WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THIS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, 686 00:21:14,075 --> 00:21:15,974 THIS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, WHETHER IS GOES TO THE BALLOT OR 687 00:21:15,976 --> 00:21:17,543 WHETHER IS GOES TO THE BALLOT OR PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE, BUT 688 00:21:17,545 --> 00:21:19,578 PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE VOTES AS I 689 00:21:19,580 --> 00:21:20,145 THEY DON'T HAVE THE VOTES AS I UNDERSTAND IT. 690 00:21:20,147 --> 00:21:22,281 UNDERSTAND IT. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING ON THAT? 691 00:21:22,283 --> 00:21:24,149 WHAT ARE YOU HEARING ON THAT? HAVE THEY CONCEDED THAT THEY 692 00:21:24,151 --> 00:21:26,318 HAVE THEY CONCEDED THAT THEY CAN'T STOP IT? 693 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,553 CAN'T STOP IT? >> YEAH. 694 00:21:27,555 --> 00:21:28,921 >> YEAH. MICHAEL, THERE -- THERE ARE 695 00:21:28,923 --> 00:21:31,690 MICHAEL, THERE -- THERE ARE ESSENTIALLY THREE SORT OF 696 00:21:31,692 --> 00:21:33,325 ESSENTIALLY THREE SORT OF OVERARCHING OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE 697 00:21:33,327 --> 00:21:34,760 OVERARCHING OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW. 698 00:21:34,762 --> 00:21:39,565 ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW. ONE IS SPEAKER TOBIN'S REFERRAL, 699 00:21:39,567 --> 00:21:41,533 ONE IS SPEAKER TOBIN'S REFERRAL, THE OTHER IS FOR THE STATE TO 700 00:21:41,535 --> 00:21:46,538 THE OTHER IS FOR THE STATE TO PAY FOR ACCESS UNDER PROPOSITION 701 00:21:46,540 --> 00:21:47,973 PAY FOR ACCESS UNDER PROPOSITION 204, AND THIRD IS THE GOVERNMENT 702 00:21:47,975 --> 00:21:49,108 204, AND THIRD IS THE GOVERNMENT EXPANSION PLAN. 703 00:21:49,110 --> 00:21:51,143 EXPANSION PLAN. OF THREE PROPOSALS, ONLY ONE HAS 704 00:21:51,145 --> 00:21:52,444 OF THREE PROPOSALS, ONLY ONE HAS THE VOTES THAT WE KNOW OF TO 705 00:21:52,446 --> 00:21:54,313 THE VOTES THAT WE KNOW OF TO PASS AND THAT'S THE GOVERNOR'S 706 00:21:54,315 --> 00:21:54,680 PASS AND THAT'S THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL. 707 00:21:54,682 --> 00:21:57,082 PROPOSAL. >> AND REPRESENTATIVE ETHAN ORR 708 00:21:57,084 --> 00:21:58,884 >> AND REPRESENTATIVE ETHAN ORR TOLD US IN AN INTERVIEW EARLIER 709 00:21:58,886 --> 00:22:00,886 TOLD US IN AN INTERVIEW EARLIER ON THE PROGRAM THAT HE COUNTS 710 00:22:00,888 --> 00:22:04,823 ON THE PROGRAM THAT HE COUNTS EIGHT REPUBLICANS, IN FAVOR OF 711 00:22:04,825 --> 00:22:07,359 EIGHT REPUBLICANS, IN FAVOR OF IT, WHICH GIVES THEM A MAJORITY 712 00:22:07,361 --> 00:22:09,695 IT, WHICH GIVES THEM A MAJORITY OF 32 COMBINED WITH DEMOCRATS. 713 00:22:09,697 --> 00:22:10,696 OF 32 COMBINED WITH DEMOCRATS. WHAT IS YOUR COUNT? 714 00:22:10,698 --> 00:22:12,097 WHAT IS YOUR COUNT? WHAT ARE YOU SEEING? 715 00:22:12,099 --> 00:22:14,466 WHAT ARE YOU SEEING? >> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING AS 716 00:22:14,468 --> 00:22:14,767 >> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING AS WELL. 717 00:22:14,769 --> 00:22:17,369 WELL. EIGHT HOUSE REPUBLICAN MEMBERS 718 00:22:17,371 --> 00:22:20,205 EIGHT HOUSE REPUBLICAN MEMBERS JOINING 24 HOUSE DEMOCRATIC 719 00:22:20,207 --> 00:22:21,740 JOINING 24 HOUSE DEMOCRATIC MEMBERS AND ENOUGH TO GET THE 720 00:22:21,742 --> 00:22:22,608 MEMBERS AND ENOUGH TO GET THE MINIMUM VOTE. 721 00:22:22,610 --> 00:22:26,211 MINIMUM VOTE. 31 IN THE HOUSE TO PASS. 722 00:22:26,213 --> 00:22:26,912 31 IN THE HOUSE TO PASS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE EXPECTED AT 723 00:22:26,914 --> 00:22:28,247 AND, YOU KNOW, WE EXPECTED AT LEAST THREE IN THE SENATE, 724 00:22:28,249 --> 00:22:30,082 LEAST THREE IN THE SENATE, TURNED OUT THERE WERE SIX 725 00:22:30,084 --> 00:22:31,684 TURNED OUT THERE WERE SIX REPUBLICANS WHO VOTED FOR THE 726 00:22:31,686 --> 00:22:32,651 REPUBLICANS WHO VOTED FOR THE GOVERNOR'S EXPANSION PLAN. 727 00:22:32,653 --> 00:22:35,654 GOVERNOR'S EXPANSION PLAN. VERY LIKELY WE WOULD SEE NOT 728 00:22:35,656 --> 00:22:36,855 VERY LIKELY WE WOULD SEE NOT EIGHT, BUT PERHAPS MORE THAN 729 00:22:36,857 --> 00:22:38,490 EIGHT, BUT PERHAPS MORE THAN EIGHT EVENTUALLY SUPPORTING THE 730 00:22:38,492 --> 00:22:39,124 EIGHT EVENTUALLY SUPPORTING THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL. 731 00:22:39,126 --> 00:22:41,026 GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL. HERE IS THE OTHER THING TOO. 732 00:22:41,028 --> 00:22:43,062 HERE IS THE OTHER THING TOO. AND IF SPEAKER TOBIN DECIDED 733 00:22:43,064 --> 00:22:44,530 AND IF SPEAKER TOBIN DECIDED THAT THE ONLY OPTION LEFT ON THE 734 00:22:44,532 --> 00:22:47,099 THAT THE ONLY OPTION LEFT ON THE TABLE IS THE GOVERNOR'S 735 00:22:47,101 --> 00:22:48,500 TABLE IS THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL, AND HE IS SOMEHOW ABLE 736 00:22:48,502 --> 00:22:51,437 PROPOSAL, AND HE IS SOMEHOW ABLE TO GET WHAT HE WANTS TO BE 737 00:22:51,439 --> 00:22:53,105 TO GET WHAT HE WANTS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSAL IN THE 738 00:22:53,107 --> 00:22:54,239 INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSAL IN THE PROPOSAL, WE COULD SEE HIM 739 00:22:54,241 --> 00:22:54,673 PROPOSAL, WE COULD SEE HIM SUPPORTING IT. 740 00:22:54,675 --> 00:22:57,042 SUPPORTING IT. IF HE DID, THERE COULD BE A 741 00:22:57,044 --> 00:22:58,644 IF HE DID, THERE COULD BE A CASCADE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD -- 742 00:22:58,646 --> 00:22:59,912 CASCADE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD -- YOU COULD SEE OTHER MEMBERS AS 743 00:22:59,914 --> 00:23:01,680 YOU COULD SEE OTHER MEMBERS AS WELL SAYING, WELL, OUR 744 00:23:01,682 --> 00:23:02,981 WELL SAYING, WELL, OUR LEADERSHIP IS SUPPORTING IT, WE 745 00:23:02,983 --> 00:23:04,016 LEADERSHIP IS SUPPORTING IT, WE MIGHT AS WELL DO IT. 746 00:23:04,018 --> 00:23:06,552 MIGHT AS WELL DO IT. >> PERHAPS GETTING THAT 2/3 THAT 747 00:23:06,554 --> 00:23:07,686 >> PERHAPS GETTING THAT 2/3 THAT EVERYBODY HAS BEEN TALKING 748 00:23:07,688 --> 00:23:09,154 EVERYBODY HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT, SOME PEOPLE SAY IS NEEDED 749 00:23:09,156 --> 00:23:09,888 ABOUT, SOME PEOPLE SAY IS NEEDED TO PASS THIS? 750 00:23:09,890 --> 00:23:11,990 TO PASS THIS? >> WELL, IT'S VERY LIKELY IF THE 751 00:23:11,992 --> 00:23:13,826 >> WELL, IT'S VERY LIKELY IF THE SPEAKER IS GOING TO SUPPORT THE 752 00:23:13,828 --> 00:23:14,193 SPEAKER IS GOING TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSAL. 753 00:23:14,195 --> 00:23:16,762 PROPOSAL. I GUESS TO A HUGE EXTENT REALLY 754 00:23:16,764 --> 00:23:20,299 I GUESS TO A HUGE EXTENT REALLY HINGES ON WHAT THE SPEAKER DOES 755 00:23:20,301 --> 00:23:20,566 HINGES ON WHAT THE SPEAKER DOES NOW. 756 00:23:20,568 --> 00:23:22,167 NOW. EVEN IF THEY GET 2/3 IN THE 757 00:23:22,169 --> 00:23:24,136 EVEN IF THEY GET 2/3 IN THE HOUSE AND THAT PROPOSAL IS 758 00:23:24,138 --> 00:23:26,071 HOUSE AND THAT PROPOSAL IS AMENDED THERE, IT HAS TO GO BACK 759 00:23:26,073 --> 00:23:28,240 AMENDED THERE, IT HAS TO GO BACK TO THE SENATE FOR CONCURRENCE. 760 00:23:28,242 --> 00:23:30,042 TO THE SENATE FOR CONCURRENCE. AND SHOULD THAT HAPPEN, THEN WE 761 00:23:30,044 --> 00:23:32,111 AND SHOULD THAT HAPPEN, THEN WE ARE LOOKING AT ANOTHER VOTE IN 762 00:23:32,113 --> 00:23:33,746 ARE LOOKING AT ANOTHER VOTE IN THE SENATE, AND, OF COURSE, THEY 763 00:23:33,748 --> 00:23:36,281 THE SENATE, AND, OF COURSE, THEY WOULD NEED 20 VOTES TO SATISFY 764 00:23:36,283 --> 00:23:37,416 WOULD NEED 20 VOTES TO SATISFY THE 2/3 MAJORITY. 765 00:23:37,418 --> 00:23:40,586 THE 2/3 MAJORITY. >> THE GOVERNOR EXERCISED HER 766 00:23:40,588 --> 00:23:42,721 >> THE GOVERNOR EXERCISED HER MORATORIUM IF YOU WILL BY 767 00:23:42,723 --> 00:23:44,990 MORATORIUM IF YOU WILL BY VETOING FIVE BILLS THIS WEEK. 768 00:23:44,992 --> 00:23:46,959 VETOING FIVE BILLS THIS WEEK. WHICH IS WHAT SHE PROMISED TO DO 769 00:23:46,961 --> 00:23:49,261 WHICH IS WHAT SHE PROMISED TO DO IF THEY HADN'T PASSED A BUDGET 770 00:23:49,263 --> 00:23:51,597 IF THEY HADN'T PASSED A BUDGET WITH MEDICAID EXPANSION IN IT. 771 00:23:51,599 --> 00:23:54,700 WITH MEDICAID EXPANSION IN IT. DID THAT GET ANYBODY'S 772 00:23:54,702 --> 00:23:55,067 DID THAT GET ANYBODY'S ATTENTION? 773 00:23:55,069 --> 00:23:58,003 ATTENTION? OR HAVE THINGS ALREADY PRETTY 774 00:23:58,005 --> 00:23:58,971 OR HAVE THINGS ALREADY PRETTY MUCH BEEN SETTLED? 775 00:23:58,973 --> 00:24:00,105 MUCH BEEN SETTLED? >> IT'S INTERESTING. 776 00:24:00,107 --> 00:24:02,307 >> IT'S INTERESTING. BECAUSE THERE ARE THREE SORT OF 777 00:24:02,309 --> 00:24:04,376 BECAUSE THERE ARE THREE SORT OF TIME PERIODS. 778 00:24:04,378 --> 00:24:07,780 TIME PERIODS. WHEN THE GOVERNOR SAID FIRST, 779 00:24:07,782 --> 00:24:11,984 WHEN THE GOVERNOR SAID FIRST, SLOW DOWN. 780 00:24:11,986 --> 00:24:13,018 SLOW DOWN. YOUR PO 781 00:24:13,020 --> 00:24:14,353 YOUR PO YOUR WORK ON PASSING BILLS AND 782 00:24:14,355 --> 00:24:15,621 YOUR WORK ON PASSING BILLS AND SHE SAID UNLESS THERE IS 783 00:24:15,623 --> 00:24:17,823 SHE SAID UNLESS THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS ON THE 784 00:24:17,825 --> 00:24:19,324 SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS ON THE BUDGET, DON'T SEND ME ANY BILLS. 785 00:24:19,326 --> 00:24:21,427 BUDGET, DON'T SEND ME ANY BILLS. THAT WAS A FEW WEEKS AGO AND 786 00:24:21,429 --> 00:24:23,062 THAT WAS A FEW WEEKS AGO AND RECENTLY, THIS WEEK, SHE 787 00:24:23,064 --> 00:24:25,864 RECENTLY, THIS WEEK, SHE REITERATED THAT AND SAID UNLESS 788 00:24:25,866 --> 00:24:27,032 REITERATED THAT AND SAID UNLESS YOU MAKE SOME SUBSTANTIAL 789 00:24:27,034 --> 00:24:28,534 YOU MAKE SOME SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS ON THESE TWO ITEMS AND 790 00:24:28,536 --> 00:24:30,269 PROGRESS ON THESE TWO ITEMS AND IN FACT, NOT COUNTING THE 791 00:24:30,271 --> 00:24:32,171 IN FACT, NOT COUNTING THE SENATE'S PASSAGE OF THE MEDICAID 792 00:24:32,173 --> 00:24:34,473 SENATE'S PASSAGE OF THE MEDICAID EXPANSION PLAN AND THEIR BUDGET, 793 00:24:34,475 --> 00:24:37,242 EXPANSION PLAN AND THEIR BUDGET, AS SATISFYING HER REQUESTS OF 794 00:24:37,244 --> 00:24:40,212 AS SATISFYING HER REQUESTS OF HER PLEA, THEN SHE WILL NOT SIGN 795 00:24:40,214 --> 00:24:43,082 HER PLEA, THEN SHE WILL NOT SIGN BILLS, AND THERE WERE SOME WHO 796 00:24:43,084 --> 00:24:46,018 BILLS, AND THERE WERE SOME WHO MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT THAT MAYBE 797 00:24:46,020 --> 00:24:46,752 MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT THAT MAYBE THERE WAS SOME FLEXIBILITY 798 00:24:46,754 --> 00:24:47,052 THERE WAS SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE. 799 00:24:47,054 --> 00:24:48,620 THERE. I WAS TALKING TO ANDY BIGGS 800 00:24:48,622 --> 00:24:50,155 I WAS TALKING TO ANDY BIGGS YESTERDAY, AND HE SAID, WELL, 801 00:24:50,157 --> 00:24:52,558 YESTERDAY, AND HE SAID, WELL, SHE HAS NOT TOLD ME NOT TO SEND 802 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:53,692 SHE HAS NOT TOLD ME NOT TO SEND HER UP BILLS. 803 00:24:53,694 --> 00:24:55,494 HER UP BILLS. YESTERDAY, THE GOVERNOR MADE 804 00:24:55,496 --> 00:24:57,663 YESTERDAY, THE GOVERNOR MADE VERY CLEAR EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING 805 00:24:57,665 --> 00:25:01,000 VERY CLEAR EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IF THEY KEPT SENDING 806 00:25:01,002 --> 00:25:01,734 TO HAPPEN IF THEY KEPT SENDING HER BILLS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE 807 00:25:01,736 --> 00:25:03,335 HER BILLS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE HER VETO STAMP WAITING FOR THOSE 808 00:25:03,337 --> 00:25:03,635 HER VETO STAMP WAITING FOR THOSE BILLS. 809 00:25:03,637 --> 00:25:06,505 BILLS. >> REPUBLICANS SAID THIS IS A 810 00:25:06,507 --> 00:25:09,608 >> REPUBLICANS SAID THIS IS A ONE-TIME PHENOMENON AND WILL 811 00:25:09,610 --> 00:25:10,709 ONE-TIME PHENOMENON AND WILL COME BACK TOGETHER AND BE UNITED 812 00:25:10,711 --> 00:25:13,245 COME BACK TOGETHER AND BE UNITED ONCE THE ISSUE IS SETTLED. 813 00:25:13,247 --> 00:25:15,514 ONCE THE ISSUE IS SETTLED. DO YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING? 814 00:25:15,516 --> 00:25:17,549 DO YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING? IS THIS A CHANGE IN THE 815 00:25:17,551 --> 00:25:20,252 IS THIS A CHANGE IN THE STRUCTURAL DYNAMIC AT THE 816 00:25:20,254 --> 00:25:20,586 STRUCTURAL DYNAMIC AT THE CAPITAL? 817 00:25:20,588 --> 00:25:22,488 CAPITAL? >> TOUGH TO SAY WHAT IS GOING TO 818 00:25:22,490 --> 00:25:23,255 >> TOUGH TO SAY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AFTER. 819 00:25:23,257 --> 00:25:24,623 HAPPEN AFTER. A VERY BIG ISSUE. 820 00:25:24,625 --> 00:25:26,225 A VERY BIG ISSUE. WE ANTICIPATE THIS ISSUE WILL 821 00:25:26,227 --> 00:25:29,061 WE ANTICIPATE THIS ISSUE WILL STILL OVER TO THE ELECTIONS NEXT 822 00:25:29,063 --> 00:25:29,361 STILL OVER TO THE ELECTIONS NEXT YEAR. 823 00:25:29,363 --> 00:25:34,299 YEAR. AND THAT'S MORE THAN A YEAR 824 00:25:34,301 --> 00:25:34,600 AND THAT'S MORE THAN A YEAR AWAY. 825 00:25:34,602 --> 00:25:39,104 AWAY. BUT TO ANY EXTENT IT ONLY HAS TO 826 00:25:39,106 --> 00:25:41,807 BUT TO ANY EXTENT IT ONLY HAS TO REAFFIRMED REALLY THE FACTIONS 827 00:25:41,809 --> 00:25:44,309 REAFFIRMED REALLY THE FACTIONS WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN 828 00:25:44,311 --> 00:25:46,145 WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN THE SENATE AND IN THE HOUSE AS 829 00:25:46,147 --> 00:25:46,445 THE SENATE AND IN THE HOUSE AS WELL. 830 00:25:46,447 --> 00:25:48,847 WELL. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, IS WE HAVE 831 00:25:48,849 --> 00:25:51,950 WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, IS WE HAVE ALWAYS REGARDED THE SENATE 832 00:25:51,952 --> 00:25:54,119 ALWAYS REGARDED THE SENATE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS AS SPLINTERED. 833 00:25:54,121 --> 00:25:56,855 REPUBLICAN CAUCUS AS SPLINTERED. THOSE WHO ARE MORE MAINSTREAM 834 00:25:56,857 --> 00:25:59,491 THOSE WHO ARE MORE MAINSTREAM AND THOSE WE CONSIDER MORE TEA 835 00:25:59,493 --> 00:26:03,362 AND THOSE WE CONSIDER MORE TEA PARTY AND IF ANYTHING DEVELOPS 836 00:26:03,364 --> 00:26:05,698 PARTY AND IF ANYTHING DEVELOPS ON THE MEDICAID SIDE OF THE 837 00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:07,866 ON THE MEDICAID SIDE OF THE SENATE AFFIRM THE LINES IN THE 838 00:26:07,868 --> 00:26:08,801 SENATE AFFIRM THE LINES IN THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS. 839 00:26:08,803 --> 00:26:13,105 REPUBLICAN CAUCUS. >> LESS THAN A MINUTE REMAINING, 840 00:26:13,107 --> 00:26:18,077 >> LESS THAN A MINUTE REMAINING, L 841 00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:18,377 L LUIGE. 842 00:26:18,379 --> 00:26:21,313 LUIGE. CAN PERHAPS SOME OTHER THINGS BE 843 00:26:21,315 --> 00:26:22,348 CAN PERHAPS SOME OTHER THINGS BE GAINED BY DEMOCRATS? 844 00:26:22,350 --> 00:26:23,982 GAINED BY DEMOCRATS? >> THE FACT THAT THEY GOT WHAT 845 00:26:23,984 --> 00:26:25,751 >> THE FACT THAT THEY GOT WHAT THEY WANTED IN THE SENATE 846 00:26:25,753 --> 00:26:26,085 THEY WANTED IN THE SENATE BUDGET. 847 00:26:26,087 --> 00:26:28,220 BUDGET. AND INITIALLY THEY HAD OFFERED 848 00:26:28,222 --> 00:26:29,922 AND INITIALLY THEY HAD OFFERED AMENDMENTS THAT WERE VOTED DOWN 849 00:26:29,924 --> 00:26:33,826 AMENDMENTS THAT WERE VOTED DOWN AND THEN WHETHER THEWHEN THERE 850 00:26:33,828 --> 00:26:36,495 AND THEN WHETHER THEWHEN THERE AN ACTUAL ROLL CALL, SEVERAL 851 00:26:36,497 --> 00:26:38,530 AN ACTUAL ROLL CALL, SEVERAL REPUBLICANS VOTED WITH THE 852 00:26:38,532 --> 00:26:41,066 REPUBLICANS VOTED WITH THE DEFENDANTS TO SUPPORT THEM AND 853 00:26:41,068 --> 00:26:41,867 DEFENDANTS TO SUPPORT THEM AND ABLE TO GET THEM SUCCESSFULLY ON 854 00:26:41,869 --> 00:26:43,235 ABLE TO GET THEM SUCCESSFULLY ON THE BUDGET. 855 00:26:43,237 --> 00:26:45,270 THE BUDGET. THE COALITION WE'RE SEEING COULD 856 00:26:45,272 --> 00:26:46,572 THE COALITION WE'RE SEEING COULD POTENTIALLY EXPAND BEYOND THE 857 00:26:46,574 --> 00:26:48,007 POTENTIALLY EXPAND BEYOND THE SESSION AND WE MIGHT SEE THAT 858 00:26:48,009 --> 00:26:49,975 SESSION AND WE MIGHT SEE THAT CROP UP AGAIN IN OTHER MAJOR 859 00:26:49,977 --> 00:26:51,643 CROP UP AGAIN IN OTHER MAJOR ISSUES, A VERY LIKELY AND 860 00:26:51,645 --> 00:26:53,145 ISSUES, A VERY LIKELY AND POSSIBLE SCENARIO. 861 00:26:53,147 --> 00:27:01,920 POSSIBLE SCENARIO. >> LUI FWNCH E DEGE DELL PUERTOU 862 00:27:01,922 --> 00:27:02,788 >> LUI FWNCH E DEGE DELL PUERTOU FOR BEING WITH ME. 863 00:27:02,790 --> 00:27:04,156 FOR BEING WITH ME. >> THANK YOU, MICHAEL. 864 00:27:04,158 --> 00:27:11,196 >> THANK YOU, MICHAEL. >> MORE ON THE STATEHOUSE AT A 865 00:27:11,198 --> 00:27:12,231 >> MORE ON THE STATEHOUSE AT A SFWLNCH 866 00:27:12,233 --> 00:27:12,564 SFWLNCH ZPM.ORG. 867 00:27:12,566 --> 00:27:13,532 ZPM.ORG. THAT'S OUR PROGRAM. 868 00:27:13,534 --> 00:27:15,267 THAT'S OUR PROGRAM. FOR "ARIZONA WEEK," I'M MICHAEL 869 00:27:15,269 --> 00:27:19,269 FOR "ARIZONA WEEK," I'M MICHAEL CHIHAK.