>>> IF THERE WAS ANY BUDGET
ACTIVITY THIS WEEK, IT WAS

ACTIVITY THIS WEEK, IT WAS
BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
>> WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET

>> WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET
LINE BY LINE.

LINE BY LINE.
>> THAT DIDN'T STOP GOVERNOR JAN

>> THAT DIDN'T STOP GOVERNOR JAN
BREWER IN HER CRUSADE TO SECURE

BREWER IN HER CRUSADE TO SECURE
MEDICAID EXPANSION AS PART OF

MEDICAID EXPANSION AS PART OF
THE BUDGET.

THE BUDGET.
>> WE CANNOT MOVE THE BUDGET

>> WE CANNOT MOVE THE BUDGET
WITHOUT THIS INITIATIVE.

WITHOUT THIS INITIATIVE.
SO WE GOT TO GET THE MEDICAID

SO WE GOT TO GET THE MEDICAID
THING SQUARED AWAY, GET THE

THING SQUARED AWAY, GET THE
BUDGET SQUARED AWAY, AND THE

BUDGET SQUARED AWAY, AND THE
BUDGET SQUARED AWAY,

BUDGET SQUARED AWAY,
EDUCATION -- HIGHER EDUCATION,

EDUCATION -- HIGHER EDUCATION,
PUBLIC SAFETY, ALL THOSE THINGS

PUBLIC SAFETY, ALL THOSE THINGS
THAT WE ALL DEPEND UPON.

THAT WE ALL DEPEND UPON.
>> THE GOVERNOR APPLIES MEDICAID

>> THE GOVERNOR APPLIES MEDICAID
PRESSURE BY TAKING HER CAMPAIGN

PRESSURE BY TAKING HER CAMPAIGN
ON THE ROAD.

ON THE ROAD.
IT'S "ARIZONA WEEK."

IT'S "ARIZONA WEEK."
>>> PRODUCTION MADE IN PART BY

>>> PRODUCTION MADE IN PART BY
THE STONE WALL FOUNDATION AND

THE STONE WALL FOUNDATION AND
MEMBERS OF ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA.

MEMBERS OF ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED
SUPPORT.

>> ONCE AGAIN, YOUR MODERATOR,
MICHAEL CHIHAK.

MICHAEL CHIHAK.
>> NO MEDICAID, NO BUDGET.

>> NO MEDICAID, NO BUDGET.
THE LINE IN THE STAND THAT

THE LINE IN THE STAND THAT
GOVERNOR BREWER IS RELYING ON TO

GOVERNOR BREWER IS RELYING ON TO
HELP RELUCTANT REPUBLICANS IN

HELP RELUCTANT REPUBLICANS IN
THE LEGISLATURE.

THE LEGISLATURE.
>> WE CANNOT MOVE THE BUDGET

>> WE CANNOT MOVE THE BUDGET
WITHOUT THIS INITIATIVE.

WITHOUT THIS INITIATIVE.
SO WE HAVE TO GET THE MEDICAID

SO WE HAVE TO GET THE MEDICAID
THING SQUARED AWAY, THE BUDGET

THING SQUARED AWAY, THE BUDGET
SQUARED AWAY AND BY GETTING THE

SQUARED AWAY AND BY GETTING THE
BUDGET SQUARED AWAY, WE HAVE

BUDGET SQUARED AWAY, WE HAVE
EDUCATION, HIGHER EDUCATION,

EDUCATION, HIGHER EDUCATION,
PUBLIC SAFETY, ALL OF THE THINGS

PUBLIC SAFETY, ALL OF THE THINGS
WE ALL DEPEND UPON, SO WE CAN

WE ALL DEPEND UPON, SO WE CAN
HAVE THAT MONEY THERE TO DO

HAVE THAT MONEY THERE TO DO
WHAT'S RIGHT FOR ARIZONA.

WHAT'S RIGHT FOR ARIZONA.
>> BREWER IN TUCSON THIS WEEK

>> BREWER IN TUCSON THIS WEEK
FOR A RALLY WITH LEADERS OF

FOR A RALLY WITH LEADERS OF
SOUTHERN ARIZONA'S HEALTH CARE

SOUTHERN ARIZONA'S HEALTH CARE
INDUSTRY AND THE BUSINESS

INDUSTRY AND THE BUSINESS
COMMUNITY, PUSHING EXPANSION OF

COMMUNITY, PUSHING EXPANSION OF
MEDICAID UNDER THE AFFORDABLE

MEDICAID UNDER THE AFFORDABLE
CARE ACT.

CARE ACT.
SHE SAYS IT WILL BRING THE STATE

SHE SAYS IT WILL BRING THE STATE
BILLIONS IN FEDERAL DOLLARS,

BILLIONS IN FEDERAL DOLLARS,
PROVIDE HEALTH CARE FOR 300,000

PROVIDE HEALTH CARE FOR 300,000
PEOPLE AND CREATE THOUSANDS OF

PEOPLE AND CREATE THOUSANDS OF
JOBS.

JOBS.
>> I DELIBERATED LONG AND HARD.

>> I DELIBERATED LONG AND HARD.
I KNEW IT WOULD BE A FIRESTORM,

I KNEW IT WOULD BE A FIRESTORM,
I WANTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

I WANTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
WE ALL PAY FEDERAL TAXES, SEND

WE ALL PAY FEDERAL TAXES, SEND
IT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND

IT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND
THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO BRING

THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO BRING
THOSE FEDERAL DOLLARS BACK IN

THOSE FEDERAL DOLLARS BACK IN
INTO -- INTO ARIZONA AND PUT IT

INTO -- INTO ARIZONA AND PUT IT
TO GOOD USE IT WILL SAVE RURAL

TO GOOD USE IT WILL SAVE RURAL
HOSPITALS FROM CLOSING DOWN IT

HOSPITALS FROM CLOSING DOWN IT
WILL HELP LARGER HOSPITALS,

WILL HELP LARGER HOSPITALS,
ALLOW THEM TO PROVIDE SERVICES

ALLOW THEM TO PROVIDE SERVICES
TO THOSE THAT NEED THEM IN THIS

TO THOSE THAT NEED THEM IN THIS
COMMUNITY AND BUILD JOBS AND

COMMUNITY AND BUILD JOBS AND
WON'T COST A PENNY TO DELIVER

WON'T COST A PENNY TO DELIVER
SERVICES TO ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE.

SERVICES TO ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE.
IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
>> AT THE RALLY, HELD AT TUCSON

>> AT THE RALLY, HELD AT TUCSON
MEDICAL CENTER, BREWER REJECTED

MEDICAL CENTER, BREWER REJECTED
ARIZONA HOUSE SPEAKER'S PROPOSED

ARIZONA HOUSE SPEAKER'S PROPOSED
REFUSE RIPPED UM ON MEDICATION

REFUSE RIPPED UM ON MEDICATION
EXPANSION THIS FALL.

EXPANSION THIS FALL.
>> THE EASY WAY OUT, WHEN TOUGH

>> THE EASY WAY OUT, WHEN TOUGH
THINGS ON THE TABLE IS TO PUNT,

THINGS ON THE TABLE IS TO PUNT,
SEND IT TO THE VOTERS, I BELIEVE

SEND IT TO THE VOTERS, I BELIEVE
IN THE INITIATIVE PROCESS, IN

IN THE INITIATIVE PROCESS, IN
THE REFERENDUM PROCESS, THAT'S A

THE REFERENDUM PROCESS, THAT'S A
WAY YOU CAN GET THINGS DONE, BUT

WAY YOU CAN GET THINGS DONE, BUT
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON
WHY OUR LEGISLATURE CANNOT GET

WHY OUR LEGISLATURE CANNOT GET
THIS PASSED OUT OF THE HOUSE AND

THIS PASSED OUT OF THE HOUSE AND
REVOTED IN THE SENATE AND GET

REVOTED IN THE SENATE AND GET
THE JOB DONE.

THE JOB DONE.
IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
>> THE HOUSE IS EXPECTED TO

>> THE HOUSE IS EXPECTED TO
DEBATE THE ISSUE NEXT WEEK.

DEBATE THE ISSUE NEXT WEEK.
FOR THAT REASON, BREWER TOLD

FOR THAT REASON, BREWER TOLD
MORE THAN 200 PEOPLE AT THE

MORE THAN 200 PEOPLE AT THE
RALLY --

RALLY --
>> IF THEY TAKE IT TO THE

>> IF THEY TAKE IT TO THE
PUBLIC, THEN THERE WILL BE ALL

PUBLIC, THEN THERE WILL BE ALL
KINDS, I BELIEVE, OF CONTROVERSY

KINDS, I BELIEVE, OF CONTROVERSY
OUT THERE.

OUT THERE.
IT'S A DIFFICULT SITUATION.

IT'S A DIFFICULT SITUATION.
AND ETHAN TALKED ABOUT SOME

AND ETHAN TALKED ABOUT SOME
MYTHS AND ALWAYS TALK, MEDICARE

MYTHS AND ALWAYS TALK, MEDICARE
ACCESS MEDICAID IS OUR ACCESS

ACCESS MEDICAID IS OUR ACCESS
PROGRAM.

PROGRAM.
MEDICAID HAS BEEN AROUND

MEDICAID HAS BEEN AROUND
FOREVER, BUT THEY WANT TO CALL

FOREVER, BUT THEY WANT TO CALL
IT OBAMA CARE, BECAUSE FOR SOME

IT OBAMA CARE, BECAUSE FOR SOME
REASON THEY LIKE TO PUT

REASON THEY LIKE TO PUT
EVERYTHING UNDER THAT UMBRELLA.

EVERYTHING UNDER THAT UMBRELLA.
OBAMA CARE IS THAT BIG UMBRELLA,

OBAMA CARE IS THAT BIG UMBRELLA,
AND A TINY PORTION OF IT IS THE

AND A TINY PORTION OF IT IS THE
MEDICAID, OUR ACCESS PROGRAM.

MEDICAID, OUR ACCESS PROGRAM.
WHICH WAS HERE LONG BEFORE OBAMA

WHICH WAS HERE LONG BEFORE OBAMA
HEALTH CARE.

HEALTH CARE.
AND IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY,

AND IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY,
SERVICES, EARLY ON, FOR THOSE OF

SERVICES, EARLY ON, FOR THOSE OF
YOU THAT ARE NOT OLD ENOUGH TO

YOU THAT ARE NOT OLD ENOUGH TO
REMEMBER, WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE

REMEMBER, WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE
NEIGHBORHOOD DOCTOR, THE COUNTY

NEIGHBORHOOD DOCTOR, THE COUNTY
TOOK OVER, STARTED DELIVERING

TOOK OVER, STARTED DELIVERING
SERVICES AND WE STEPPED UP, AND

SERVICES AND WE STEPPED UP, AND
THE LAST STATE IN THE UNION TO

THE LAST STATE IN THE UNION TO
ADOPT A MEDICAID.

ADOPT A MEDICAID.
AND WE DID IT, WE DID IT WELL.

AND WE DID IT, WE DID IT WELL.
WE'RE NOW THE GOLD STANDARD.

WE'RE NOW THE GOLD STANDARD.
WE DELIVER IT BETTER, WE DELIVER

WE DELIVER IT BETTER, WE DELIVER
IT MORE EFFECTIVELY AND WE

IT MORE EFFECTIVELY AND WE
DELIVER IT LESS EXPENSIVELY,

DELIVER IT LESS EXPENSIVELY,
THAN THE MAJORITY OF EVERY STATE

THAN THE MAJORITY OF EVERY STATE
IN THIS COUNTRY OF OURS, THEY

IN THIS COUNTRY OF OURS, THEY
SHOULD BE LOOKING TO ARIZONA TO

SHOULD BE LOOKING TO ARIZONA TO
IMPLEMENT.

IMPLEMENT.
>> WE JUST NEED EVERYBODY ON

>> WE JUST NEED EVERYBODY ON
BOARD, GET THEIR FACTS STRAIGHT

BOARD, GET THEIR FACTS STRAIGHT
AND CALL YOUR LEGISLATORS AND

AND CALL YOUR LEGISLATORS AND
T@ THEM, WE CAN'T -- WE

T@ THEM, WE CAN'T -- WE
ELECTED YOU TO DO YOUR JOB, NOW

ELECTED YOU TO DO YOUR JOB, NOW
DO IT!

DO IT!
>> AFTERWARD, THE GOVERNOR TOLD

>> AFTERWARD, THE GOVERNOR TOLD
REPORTERS WHY SHE IS PUSHING SO

REPORTERS WHY SHE IS PUSHING SO
HARD AND HOW SHE SEES THE

HARD AND HOW SHE SEES THE
CHANCES.

CHANCES.
>> SOME SAY THAT THIS IS A

>> SOME SAY THAT THIS IS A
LEGACY STANCE ON YOUR PART AND

LEGACY STANCE ON YOUR PART AND
THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT

THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT
AS FAR AS THE VOTE ON MEDICAID.

AS FAR AS THE VOTE ON MEDICAID.
IS PRESERVING YOUR LEGACY.

IS PRESERVING YOUR LEGACY.
>> YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IT IS THE

>> YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IT IS THE
RIGHT THING TO DO FOR ARIZONA.

RIGHT THING TO DO FOR ARIZONA.
IT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING THAT

IT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING THAT
WILL PROBABLY BE A LEGACY.

WILL PROBABLY BE A LEGACY.
WILL CHANGE THE -- THE LANDSCAPE

WILL CHANGE THE -- THE LANDSCAPE
OF ARIZONA FOR THE BETTER.

OF ARIZONA FOR THE BETTER.
AND I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT

AND I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT
I'VE RECEIVED ON IT, BUT I'M

I'VE RECEIVED ON IT, BUT I'M
COMMITTED AND WILL GET IT DONE.

COMMITTED AND WILL GET IT DONE.
>> WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM THE

>> WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM THE
HOUSE IN WHAT THEY ARE COMING --

HOUSE IN WHAT THEY ARE COMING --
>> I MET WITH THE SPEAKER AND

>> I MET WITH THE SPEAKER AND
HIS STAFF AND MY STAFF HAS MET A

HIS STAFF AND MY STAFF HAS MET A
LOT WITH THEIR STAFF, AND WE ARE

LOT WITH THEIR STAFF, AND WE ARE
HOPEFUL WE CAN COME TO AN

HOPEFUL WE CAN COME TO AN
AGREEMENT, A PLAN TO GET IT OUT

AGREEMENT, A PLAN TO GET IT OUT
OF HOUSE AND BACK TO THE SENATE.

OF HOUSE AND BACK TO THE SENATE.
>> IS THE OPPOSITION ECONOMIC OR

>> IS THE OPPOSITION ECONOMIC OR
IS THE OPPOSITION MORE

IS THE OPPOSITION MORE
POLITICAL?

POLITICAL?
>> I THINK U.S.IT'S A LITTLE BI

>> I THINK U.S.IT'S A LITTLE BI
BOTH.

BOTH.
I THINK THAT THEY ARE WORRIED

I THINK THAT THEY ARE WORRIED
ABOUT THEIR DISTRICT.

ABOUT THEIR DISTRICT.
A COMPLEX ISSUE TO EXPLAIN TO

A COMPLEX ISSUE TO EXPLAIN TO
CONSTITUENTS AND THEY WANT TO

CONSTITUENTS AND THEY WANT TO
EQUATE IT TO OBAMA CARE.

EQUATE IT TO OBAMA CARE.
A LITTLE PIECE OF OBAMA CARE,

A LITTLE PIECE OF OBAMA CARE,
MEDICAID.

MEDICAID.
MEDICAID WAS HERE A LONG TIME

MEDICAID WAS HERE A LONG TIME
BEFORE OBAMA CARE, AND SO IT IS

BEFORE OBAMA CARE, AND SO IT IS
DIFFICULT.

DIFFICULT.
DIFFICULT FOR ME.

DIFFICULT FOR ME.
>> HOW DIFFICULT HAS THE

>> HOW DIFFICULT HAS THE
DECISION BEEN FOR GOP LAWMAKERS?

DECISION BEEN FOR GOP LAWMAKERS?
HERE TO TELL US, REPRESENTATIVE

HERE TO TELL US, REPRESENTATIVE
ETHAN OR FROM TUCSON'S NORTH

ETHAN OR FROM TUCSON'S NORTH
SIDE DISTRICT NINE.

SIDE DISTRICT NINE.
WELCOME, REPRESENTATIVE OR.

WELCOME, REPRESENTATIVE OR.
>> THANK YOU, MICHAEL.

>> THANK YOU, MICHAEL.
I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO BE

I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO BE
HERE.

HERE.
YOU SUPPORT MEDICAID EXPANSION.

YOU SUPPORT MEDICAID EXPANSION.
WHAT KIND OF SUPPORT HAVE YOU

WHAT KIND OF SUPPORT HAVE YOU
GOTTEN?

GOTTEN?
>> ON BOTH SIDES OF THE DEBATE,

>> ON BOTH SIDES OF THE DEBATE,
A VERY PASSIONATE DISCUSSION

A VERY PASSIONATE DISCUSSION
WHICH IS GOOD.

WHICH IS GOOD.
THIS IS ONE OF THE FARTHEST

THIS IS ONE OF THE FARTHEST
REACHING POLICIES WE'LL MAKE

REACHING POLICIES WE'LL MAKE
VOTE ON CERTAINLY THIS YEAR, IF

VOTE ON CERTAINLY THIS YEAR, IF
NOT FOR SEVERAL YEARS, SO I

NOT FOR SEVERAL YEARS, SO I
EXPECT A ROBUST DEBATE ON BOTH

EXPECT A ROBUST DEBATE ON BOTH
SIDES.

SIDES.
THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS OF MY

THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS OF MY
CAUCUS THAT OPPOSE IT AND HAVE

CAUCUS THAT OPPOSE IT AND HAVE
LET ME KNOW.

LET ME KNOW.
>> AND YOU SAID AT THE RALLY

>> AND YOU SAID AT THE RALLY
THIS WEEK HERE IN TUCSON, WITH

THIS WEEK HERE IN TUCSON, WITH
GOVERNOR BREWER, THAT YOU ARE

GOVERNOR BREWER, THAT YOU ARE
AMONG EIGHT REPUBLICANS IN THE

AMONG EIGHT REPUBLICANS IN THE
HOUSE THAT SUPPORT THIS,

HOUSE THAT SUPPORT THIS,
COMBINED WITH THE FULL

COMBINED WITH THE FULL
DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS, THAT'S A

DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS, THAT'S A
MAJORITY.

MAJORITY.
>> YES.

>> YES.
>> HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO MOVE

>> HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO MOVE
FORWARD WITH THAT?

FORWARD WITH THAT?
>> THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING

>> THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING
WE'RE WORKING ON.

WE'RE WORKING ON.
WORKING WITH HEATHER CARTER,

WORKING WITH HEATHER CARTER,
CHAIR OF THE HEALTH COMMITTEE

CHAIR OF THE HEALTH COMMITTEE
RIGHT NOW, TO FIGURE OUT HOW

RIGHT NOW, TO FIGURE OUT HOW
THIS MOVES TO THE FLOOR.

THIS MOVES TO THE FLOOR.
AS YOU KNOW, THE SENATE PASSED

AS YOU KNOW, THE SENATE PASSED
THIS LAST WEEK, TRANSMITTED THE

THIS LAST WEEK, TRANSMITTED THE
BUDGET TO THE HOUSE, HAS SEVERAL

BUDGET TO THE HOUSE, HAS SEVERAL
ROUTES IT COULD GO.

ROUTES IT COULD GO.
IT COULD GO THROUGH

IT COULD GO THROUGH
APPROPRIATIONS, END UP ON THE

APPROPRIATIONS, END UP ON THE
FLOOR, MAY BE OTHER WAYS TO GET

FLOOR, MAY BE OTHER WAYS TO GET
IT TO THE FLOOR AS WELL.

IT TO THE FLOOR AS WELL.
AN UP-OR-DOWN VOTE ON MEDICAID

AN UP-OR-DOWN VOTE ON MEDICAID
WILL HAPPEN.

WILL HAPPEN.
>> DO WE EXPECT ACTION ON THAT

>> DO WE EXPECT ACTION ON THAT
NEXT WEEK?

NEXT WEEK?
>> A LOT BEHIND THE SCENES, NOT

>> A LOT BEHIND THE SCENES, NOT
JUST MEDICAID.

JUST MEDICAID.
THE ENTIRE STATE BUDGET, ABOUT

THE ENTIRE STATE BUDGET, ABOUT
8$8.7 BILLION.

8$8.7 BILLION.
SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF

SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF
DISCUSSIONS THERE, THOSE WILL

DISCUSSIONS THERE, THOSE WILL
CONTINUE, I THINK YOU WILL SEE

CONTINUE, I THINK YOU WILL SEE
COMMITTEE HEARINGS NEXT WEEK AND

COMMITTEE HEARINGS NEXT WEEK AND
PROBABLY A VOTE BY THE ENTIRE

PROBABLY A VOTE BY THE ENTIRE
HOUSE THE WEEK AFTER?

HOUSE THE WEEK AFTER?
>> THE WEEK AFTER.

>> THE WEEK AFTER.
SO ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS AND

SO ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS AND
IT HAS TO GO TO THE SENATE WE

IT HAS TO GO TO THE SENATE WE
ASSUME, RIGHT?

ASSUME, RIGHT?
>> YES.

>> YES.
WHAT I ASSUMED TALKING TO

WHAT I ASSUMED TALKING TO
SENATORS, AS LONG AS THERE ARE

SENATORS, AS LONG AS THERE ARE
NOT SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES, THEY

NOT SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES, THEY
WILL CONCUR, WHICH WILL MOVE IT

WILL CONCUR, WHICH WILL MOVE IT
VERY RAPIDLY TO THE GOVERNOR.

VERY RAPIDLY TO THE GOVERNOR.
>> WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS WEEK IN

>> WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS WEEK IN
THE HOUSE WHEN IT COMES TO

THE HOUSE WHEN IT COMES TO
MEDICAID AND THE BUDGET?

MEDICAID AND THE BUDGET?
WAS IT BEHIND THE SCENES?

WAS IT BEHIND THE SCENES?
>> IT WAS.

>> IT WAS.
THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS WENT

THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS WENT
THROUGH THE ENTIRE BUDGET LINE

THROUGH THE ENTIRE BUDGET LINE
BY LINE.

BY LINE.
AND ONE THING THAT TOUCHED ME,

AND ONE THING THAT TOUCHED ME,
REPRESENTATIVE CAVANAUGH,

REPRESENTATIVE CAVANAUGH,
AGAINST THE MEDICAID, AND HE

AGAINST THE MEDICAID, AND HE
SAID, LOOK, THIS DECISION HAS

SAID, LOOK, THIS DECISION HAS
TORN OUR CAUCUS, TORN OUR STATE

TORN OUR CAUCUS, TORN OUR STATE
APART.

APART.
NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, WHEN WE

NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, WHEN WE
VOTE, IT IS OVER.

VOTE, IT IS OVER.
AND WE COME BACK TOGETHER AND

AND WE COME BACK TOGETHER AND
WE'RE A CAUCUS AGAIN AND THAT'S

WE'RE A CAUCUS AGAIN AND THAT'S
KIND OF THE SENTIMENT I HAVE FOR

KIND OF THE SENTIMENT I HAVE FOR
THE STATE.

THE STATE.
IT'S VERY DIVISIVE, DIFFICULT

IT'S VERY DIVISIVE, DIFFICULT
DECISION, BUT ONCE IT'S OVER,

DECISION, BUT ONCE IT'S OVER,
IT'S OVER.

IT'S OVER.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU A COUPLE

>> I WANT TO ASK YOU A COUPLE
QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
LET'S TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT A

LET'S TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT A
PROPOSAL COMING FROM SPEAKER

PROPOSAL COMING FROM SPEAKER
TOBIN IN THE HOUSE.

TOBIN IN THE HOUSE.
TO PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT IN THE

TO PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT IN THE
FALL.

FALL.
DOES THAT HAVE ANY FUTURE?

DOES THAT HAVE ANY FUTURE?
>> I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

>> I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
THE SPEAKER AND I HAD A LONG

THE SPEAKER AND I HAD A LONG
CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT JUST

CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT JUST
THIS PAST WEEKEND, I TOLD THEM

THIS PAST WEEKEND, I TOLD THEM
THAT I DO NOT SUPPORT THAT

THAT I DO NOT SUPPORT THAT
REFERENDUM, I DON'T BELIEVE HE

REFERENDUM, I DON'T BELIEVE HE
HAS THE VOTES TO DO THE

HAS THE VOTES TO DO THE
REFERENDUM AND ONE OF THE THINGS

REFERENDUM AND ONE OF THE THINGS
I TOLD HIM THAT REALLY MATTERED

I TOLD HIM THAT REALLY MATTERED
TO ME, PEOPLE SENT ME TO PHOENIX

TO ME, PEOPLE SENT ME TO PHOENIX
TO MAKE A DECISION.

TO MAKE A DECISION.
WE HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION

WE HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION
WE NEED.

WE NEED.
LET'S MAKE THE DECISION, 20

LET'S MAKE THE DECISION, 20
YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN I'M TELLING

YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN I'M TELLING
PEOPLE ABOUT MY TIME IN THE

PEOPLE ABOUT MY TIME IN THE
LEGISLATURE, I DON'T WANT TO

LEGISLATURE, I DON'T WANT TO
LOOK THEM IN THE EYE AND SAY IT

LOOK THEM IN THE EYE AND SAY IT
WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION

WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION
WE HAD, SO WE DEFERRED TO THE

WE HAD, SO WE DEFERRED TO THE
VOTERS.

VOTERS.
I THINK PEOPLE WANT US TO

I THINK PEOPLE WANT US TO
DECIDE.

DECIDE.
>> YOU SPOKE A MOMENT AGO ABOUT

>> YOU SPOKE A MOMENT AGO ABOUT
REPUBLICANS WANTING TO COME BACK

REPUBLICANS WANTING TO COME BACK
TOGETHER.

TOGETHER.
REPUBLICAN UNITY IS SOMETHING

REPUBLICAN UNITY IS SOMETHING
THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS KNOWN

THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS KNOWN
FOR OVER THE YEARS.

FOR OVER THE YEARS.
WHAT IS IT ABOUT THIS THAT HAS

WHAT IS IT ABOUT THIS THAT HAS
LED TO THE RIFT, IF YOU WILL?

LED TO THE RIFT, IF YOU WILL?
>> WELL, AGAIN, IT'S SUCH A HUGE

>> WELL, AGAIN, IT'S SUCH A HUGE
DECISION AND THE WAY THAT IT WAS

DECISION AND THE WAY THAT IT WAS
FRAMED ORIGINALLY, IT WAS NOT

FRAMED ORIGINALLY, IT WAS NOT
FRAMED AS A POLICY DECISION, BUT

FRAMED AS A POLICY DECISION, BUT
PEOPLE LATCHED ON, THIS IS OBAMA

PEOPLE LATCHED ON, THIS IS OBAMA
CARE, AND, FRANKLY, SOME OF THE

CARE, AND, FRANKLY, SOME OF THE
E-MAILS I AM GETTING INTELLIGENT

E-MAILS I AM GETTING INTELLIGENT
PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT, DON'T

PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT, DON'T
MAKE SENSE, BECAUSE THEY AREN'T

MAKE SENSE, BECAUSE THEY AREN'T
TIED TO THIS DECISION.

TIED TO THIS DECISION.
I THINK THIS DECISION HAS TAKEN

I THINK THIS DECISION HAS TAKEN
ON A LIFE GREATER THAN ITSELF.

ON A LIFE GREATER THAN ITSELF.
>> ARE YOU -- ARE YOU CONVINCED

>> ARE YOU -- ARE YOU CONVINCED
THAT THE CAUCUS WILL COME BACK

THAT THE CAUCUS WILL COME BACK
TOGETHER, BOTH IN THE HOUSE AND

TOGETHER, BOTH IN THE HOUSE AND
IN THE SENATE TO BE UNIFIED ON

IN THE SENATE TO BE UNIFIED ON
FUTURE ISSUES AND IN FUTURE

FUTURE ISSUES AND IN FUTURE
SESSIONS?

SESSIONS?
>> I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST TO

>> I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST TO
MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS AND DO MY

MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS AND DO MY
BEST TO MAKE SURE THE ENTIRE

BEST TO MAKE SURE THE ENTIRE
HOUSEWORKS TOGETHER.

HOUSEWORKS TOGETHER.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO
BRING TO THE HOUSE, AND WE HAVE

BRING TO THE HOUSE, AND WE HAVE
HAD IT UP UNTIL NOW IS A SPACE

HAD IT UP UNTIL NOW IS A SPACE
WHERE WE CAN HAVE INTELLIGENT

WHERE WE CAN HAVE INTELLIGENT
CONVERSATION, LEGITIMATELY

CONVERSATION, LEGITIMATELY
DISAGREE AND SHAKE HANDS AND

DISAGREE AND SHAKE HANDS AND
WALK AWAY AND STILL WORK

WALK AWAY AND STILL WORK
TOGETHER.

TOGETHER.
>> WILL THIS ISSUE COME BACK IN

>> WILL THIS ISSUE COME BACK IN
A FEW YEARS, BECAUSE THE SENATE

A FEW YEARS, BECAUSE THE SENATE
VERSION HAS IN IT A THREE-YEAR

VERSION HAS IN IT A THREE-YEAR
EXPIRATION OR SUN SET.

EXPIRATION OR SUN SET.
SUNSETTING IN 2017 I BELIEVE.

SUNSETTING IN 2017 I BELIEVE.
>> YES.

>> YES.
>> WILL THAT BE IN THE HOUSE

>> WILL THAT BE IN THE HOUSE
VERSION?

VERSION?
AND IS THAT SOMETHING YOU AGREE

AND IS THAT SOMETHING YOU AGREE
WITH?

WITH?
>> I DO SUPPORT THAT.

>> I DO SUPPORT THAT.
I SUPPORT THE IDEA OF A SUNSET

I SUPPORT THE IDEA OF A SUNSET
SO WE CAN LOOK AT THIS PROGRAM,

SO WE CAN LOOK AT THIS PROGRAM,
DO WHAT IT SAYS IT IS DOING OR

DO WHAT IT SAYS IT IS DOING OR
DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD COME

DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD COME
UP.

UP.
THIS GIVES US A CHANCE TO LOOK

THIS GIVES US A CHANCE TO LOOK
AT THAT OTHER THINGS WE'LL SEE

AT THAT OTHER THINGS WE'LL SEE
IN THE BILL AS WELL, THAT I HAVE

IN THE BILL AS WELL, THAT I HAVE
BEEN PUSHING FOR FROM THE

BEEN PUSHING FOR FROM THE
BEGINNING.

BEGINNING.
>> WHAT OTHER THINGS COULD

>> WHAT OTHER THINGS COULD
HAPPEN IN RELATION TO THE BUDGET

HAPPEN IN RELATION TO THE BUDGET
AS A RESULT OF THIS?

AS A RESULT OF THIS?
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE
GOVERNOR HAS BEEN PUSHING IN

GOVERNOR HAS BEEN PUSHING IN
THIS REGARD IS IT FREES UP SOME

THIS REGARD IS IT FREES UP SOME
GENERAL FUND MONEY TO BE USED IN

GENERAL FUND MONEY TO BE USED IN
EDUCATION AND PERHAPS OTHER

EDUCATION AND PERHAPS OTHER
AREAS, PUBLIC SAFETY IS ONE OF

AREAS, PUBLIC SAFETY IS ONE OF
THE ONES SHE PUSHES.

THE ONES SHE PUSHES.
DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE MORE

DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE MORE
SPENDING IN THE BUDGET AS A

SPENDING IN THE BUDGET AS A
RESULT OF THIS?

RESULT OF THIS?
>> I THINK IF -- FOR EXAMPLE, IF

>> I THINK IF -- FOR EXAMPLE, IF
YOU DON'T PASS THE MEDICAID, THE

YOU DON'T PASS THE MEDICAID, THE
IMMEDIATE HIT, $57 MILLION, THE

IMMEDIATE HIT, $57 MILLION, THE
WAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SET

WAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SET
UP THE FORMULA.

UP THE FORMULA.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS WITH

ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS WITH
THE ORIGINAL SENATE BUDGET

THE ORIGINAL SENATE BUDGET
BEFORE THE AMENDMENT AND ONE OF

BEFORE THE AMENDMENT AND ONE OF
THE REASONS I'M PUSHING MEDICAID

THE REASONS I'M PUSHING MEDICAID
AMONG OTHERS, WE HAVE $450

AMONG OTHERS, WE HAVE $450
MILLION IN THE BANK IF WE DON'T

MILLION IN THE BANK IF WE DON'T
DO MEDICAID RESTORATION AND TRY

DO MEDICAID RESTORATION AND TRY
TO GO IT ALONE, WITHIN A YEAR

TO GO IT ALONE, WITHIN A YEAR
AND A HALF THAT IS AT ZERO.

AND A HALF THAT IS AT ZERO.
I'M NOT THE GUY THAT BANKS THE

I'M NOT THE GUY THAT BANKS THE
STATE, NOT THE ONE THAT TAKES

STATE, NOT THE ONE THAT TAKES
OUR FUND BALANCE TO ZERO IN A

OUR FUND BALANCE TO ZERO IN A
CREER AND A HALF.

CREER AND A HALF.
>> HOW DO YOU RECONCILE, IN JUST

>> HOW DO YOU RECONCILE, IN JUST
A FEW SECONDS THAT WE HAVE LEFT,

A FEW SECONDS THAT WE HAVE LEFT,
HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THE

HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THE
REPUBLICAN ARGUMENT THAT THIS

REPUBLICAN ARGUMENT THAT THIS
ADDS TO FEDERAL FISCAL PROBLEMS?

ADDS TO FEDERAL FISCAL PROBLEMS?
>> ONE THING INTERESTING, A

>> ONE THING INTERESTING, A
FEDERAL SOLUTION NEEDS TO BE

FEDERAL SOLUTION NEEDS TO BE
ENACTED FEDERALLY, IF YOU COULD

ENACTED FEDERALLY, IF YOU COULD
SHOW ME BY NOT DOING THIS, A

SHOW ME BY NOT DOING THIS, A
SINGLE PERSON'S TAXES WOULD GO

SINGLE PERSON'S TAXES WOULD GO
DOWN, OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

DOWN, OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
WOULD BORROW A SINGLE LESS

WOULD BORROW A SINGLE LESS
DOLLAR, WE'D HAVE A DEBATE.

DOLLAR, WE'D HAVE A DEBATE.
COUPLING THE ARGUMENTS TOGETHER

COUPLING THE ARGUMENTS TOGETHER
HAVE YOU CREATED A FALSE

HAVE YOU CREATED A FALSE
ARGUMENT.

ARGUMENT.
>> REPRESENTATIVE ETHAN OR,

>> REPRESENTATIVE ETHAN OR,
REPUBLICAN FROM TUCSON'S NINTH

REPUBLICAN FROM TUCSON'S NINTH
DISTRICT.

DISTRICT.
THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING WITH ME.

THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING WITH ME.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> DEMOCRATS DON'T HAVE MUDGE

>> DEMOCRATS DON'T HAVE MUDGE
LEGISLATIVE SWAY IN ARIZONA, BUT

LEGISLATIVE SWAY IN ARIZONA, BUT
LAST WEEK, ALL 13 SENATE

LAST WEEK, ALL 13 SENATE
DEMOCRATS, PLUS A HAHNFUL FUHA

DEMOCRATS, PLUS A HAHNFUL FUHA
REPUBLICANS, PASSED MEDICAID.

REPUBLICANS, PASSED MEDICAID.
WILL IT BE THE SAME IN THE

WILL IT BE THE SAME IN THE
HOUSE?

HOUSE?
BRUCE WHEELER JOINS US, HE'S

BRUCE WHEELER JOINS US, HE'S
HOUSE WHIP.

HOUSE WHIP.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> WILL THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS IN

>> WILL THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS IN
THE HOUSE STAY UNITED AND SOLID

THE HOUSE STAY UNITED AND SOLID
BEHIND MEDICAID EXPANSION?

BEHIND MEDICAID EXPANSION?
>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> ABSOLUTELY.
PROVIDED THERE ARE NO

PROVIDED THERE ARE NO
MISCHIEVOUS MOVES, LIKE

MISCHIEVOUS MOVES, LIKE
RIDICULOUS EXTREME ABORTION

RIDICULOUS EXTREME ABORTION
LANGUAGE, YES, WE ARE UNITED.

LANGUAGE, YES, WE ARE UNITED.
>> TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.

>> TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
ABORTION LANGUAGE, SOME TALK OF

ABORTION LANGUAGE, SOME TALK OF
THAT, WHERE ARE WE ON THAT

THAT, WHERE ARE WE ON THAT
ISSUE?

ISSUE?
>> THE GOVERNOR AND MOST PEOPLE

>> THE GOVERNOR AND MOST PEOPLE
CONCERNED ON THIS ISSUE

CONCERNED ON THIS ISSUE
UNDERSTAND THAT THE ABORTION

UNDERSTAND THAT THE ABORTION
ISSUE ISN'T GOING TO GO

ISSUE ISN'T GOING TO GO
ANYWHERE.

ANYWHERE.
THE COURTS HAVE ALREADY RULED ON

THE COURTS HAVE ALREADY RULED ON
THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THAT

THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THAT
ISSUE, SO WE THINK THAT IT WILL

ISSUE, SO WE THINK THAT IT WILL
NOT BE ON THERE, BUT WE

NOT BE ON THERE, BUT WE
ALWAYS -- YOU NEVER KNOW AND SO

ALWAYS -- YOU NEVER KNOW AND SO
WE'RE PREPARED TO ADDRESS THAT

WE'RE PREPARED TO ADDRESS THAT
IF IT COMES UP.

IF IT COMES UP.
WE DON'T THINK ABORTION LANGUAGE

WE DON'T THINK ABORTION LANGUAGE
WILL BE IN THERE AND, THEREFORE,

WILL BE IN THERE AND, THEREFORE,
WE THINK WE ARE UNITED.

WE THINK WE ARE UNITED.
>> THE QUICK EXPLAINER WAS THAT

>> THE QUICK EXPLAINER WAS THAT
ON FEDERAL RULES, MEDICAID IS

ON FEDERAL RULES, MEDICAID IS
ALLOWED TO -- MEDICAID FOR

ALLOWED TO -- MEDICAID FOR
PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS ALLOWED,

PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS ALLOWED,
IS THAT CORRECT?

IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.
THE ARGUMENT IS BECAUSE PLANNED

THE ARGUMENT IS BECAUSE PLANNED
PARENTHOOD IS INVOLVED IN

PARENTHOOD IS INVOLVED IN
PERFORMING ABORTIONS THAT THEY

PERFORMING ABORTIONS THAT THEY
SHOULD NOT RECEIVE ANY FUNDS FOR

SHOULD NOT RECEIVE ANY FUNDS FOR
ANY HEALTH CARE MATTERS AND THE

ANY HEALTH CARE MATTERS AND THE
COURTS SAID, NO, NOT AS LONG AS

COURTS SAID, NO, NOT AS LONG AS
IT'S A LEGITIMATE HEALTH CARE

IT'S A LEGITIMATE HEALTH CARE
PROVIDER, IT CANNOT BE TARGETED

PROVIDER, IT CANNOT BE TARGETED
SPECIFICALLY THE WAY THEY WERE

SPECIFICALLY THE WAY THEY WERE
LAST YEAR BY THE LEGISLATURE.

LAST YEAR BY THE LEGISLATURE.
>> AND THAT'S THE DEMOCRATIC

>> AND THAT'S THE DEMOCRATIC
POSITION AS FAR AS SUPPORTING

POSITION AS FAR AS SUPPORTING
MEDICAID.

MEDICAID.
AS LONG AS THE LANGUAGE ISN'T IN

AS LONG AS THE LANGUAGE ISN'T IN
THERE?

THERE?
>> CORRECT.

>> CORRECT.
>> IS THERE ANY OTHER THING THAT

>> IS THERE ANY OTHER THING THAT
COULD COME UP IN THE AMENDMENT

COULD COME UP IN THE AMENDMENT
PROCESS OR IN THE COMMITTEE

PROCESS OR IN THE COMMITTEE
PROCESS THAT COULD CAUSE

PROCESS THAT COULD CAUSE
DEMOCRATS TO PAUSE?

DEMOCRATS TO PAUSE?
>> WELL, WE'LL WAIT AND SEE.

>> WELL, WE'LL WAIT AND SEE.
THERE IS SOME COLLATERAL

THERE IS SOME COLLATERAL
INSURANCE ISSUES, TORT REFORM,

INSURANCE ISSUES, TORT REFORM,
QUOTE-UNQUOTE.

QUOTE-UNQUOTE.
WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT

WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT
THAT LATELY.

THAT LATELY.
WE ARE UNITED ON REACHING ACROSS

WE ARE UNITED ON REACHING ACROSS
TO THE OTHER SIDE TO MAKE SURE

TO THE OTHER SIDE TO MAKE SURE
NO MAJOR CHANGES WILL TAKE PLACE

NO MAJOR CHANGES WILL TAKE PLACE
FROM THE BILLS SENT OVER FROM

FROM THE BILLS SENT OVER FROM
THE SENATE.

THE SENATE.
THAT'S KEY AND CRITICAL.

THAT'S KEY AND CRITICAL.
>> WHEN DO YOU EXPECT MOVEMENT

>> WHEN DO YOU EXPECT MOVEMENT
TO BEGIN ON THIS IN THE HOUSE?

TO BEGIN ON THIS IN THE HOUSE?
>> WE HOPE SO BY TUESDAY, FIRST

>> WE HOPE SO BY TUESDAY, FIRST
DAY WE GO BACK NEXT WEEK, AND

DAY WE GO BACK NEXT WEEK, AND
WE'RE NOT SURE YET WHETHER THE

WE'RE NOT SURE YET WHETHER THE
BILLS THAT CAME OVER FROM THE

BILLS THAT CAME OVER FROM THE
SENATE HAVE TO GO TO THE

SENATE HAVE TO GO TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE FIRST.

APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE FIRST.
IF THEY DO, THEY WILL PROBABLY

IF THEY DO, THEY WILL PROBABLY
BE STRIPPED OUT OF MANY

BE STRIPPED OUT OF MANY
AMENDMENTS PUT THROUGH IN THE

AMENDMENTS PUT THROUGH IN THE
SENATE.

SENATE.
THERE ARE M@ANISMS, WE HAVE

THERE ARE M@ANISMS, WE HAVE
MAINTAINED THE MAJORITY OF 31 OR

MAINTAINED THE MAJORITY OF 31 OR
MORE, WHICH AT THIS POINT WE DO

MORE, WHICH AT THIS POINT WE DO
HAVE, FOR THOSE BILLS TO GO ON

HAVE, FOR THOSE BILLS TO GO ON
THROUGH THE FLOOR THROUGH

THROUGH THE FLOOR THROUGH
DIFFERENT TYPES OF MANEUVERS,

DIFFERENT TYPES OF MANEUVERS,
THE PLAN TO PUT THOSE AMENDMENTS

THE PLAN TO PUT THOSE AMENDMENTS
THAT WERE PASSED IN THE SENATE

THAT WERE PASSED IN THE SENATE
BACK ON TO THE BILLS IN THE

BACK ON TO THE BILLS IN THE
HOUSE.

HOUSE.
>> WHAT ABOUT SPEAKER TOBIN'S

>> WHAT ABOUT SPEAKER TOBIN'S
PROPOSAL THAT THIS GO TO THE

PROPOSAL THAT THIS GO TO THE
VOTERS IN THE SPECIAL ELECTION

VOTERS IN THE SPECIAL ELECTION
IN THE FALL.

IN THE FALL.
DOES THAT HAVE ANY LEGS IN THE

DOES THAT HAVE ANY LEGS IN THE
HOUSE?

HOUSE?
>> I DON'T THINK SO MICHAEL.

>> I DON'T THINK SO MICHAEL.
I THINK AT THIS POINT HE -- HE

I THINK AT THIS POINT HE -- HE
PROBABLY RECOGNIZES TOO THAT THE

PROBABLY RECOGNIZES TOO THAT THE
VOTES JUST AREN'T THERE AND SO

VOTES JUST AREN'T THERE AND SO
HE'S GOING TO PROBABLY TRY AND

HE'S GOING TO PROBABLY TRY AND
GET SOME CONCESSIONS OUT OF WHAT

GET SOME CONCESSIONS OUT OF WHAT
HE WANTS.

HE WANTS.
>> WHAT -- WHAT DOES THIS DO FOR

>> WHAT -- WHAT DOES THIS DO FOR
THE BUDGET IN THE LARGER SENSE?

THE BUDGET IN THE LARGER SENSE?
ANY ROOM MANEUVERING THERE?

ANY ROOM MANEUVERING THERE?
THE GOVERNOR SAYS AND THE

THE GOVERNOR SAYS AND THE
NUMBERS SHOW COMING OUT OF THE

NUMBERS SHOW COMING OUT OF THE
SENATE, THAT INCLUDING THE

SENATE, THAT INCLUDING THE
MEDICAID EXPANSION IN THE BUDGET

MEDICAID EXPANSION IN THE BUDGET
PROVIDES MORE STATE FUNDING IN

PROVIDES MORE STATE FUNDING IN
THE FEDERAL FUND.

THE FEDERAL FUND.
WILL DEMOCRATS TRY TO PLAY THAT

WILL DEMOCRATS TRY TO PLAY THAT
SOMEHOW TO GET MORE FUNDING FOR,

SOMEHOW TO GET MORE FUNDING FOR,
SAY, EDUCATION?

SAY, EDUCATION?
>> HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK SO,

>> HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK SO,
AND THE REASON IS, DEMOCRATS,

AND THE REASON IS, DEMOCRATS,
AND BASICALLY HAPPY WITH THE

AND BASICALLY HAPPY WITH THE
BILL THAT CAME OVER FROM THE

BILL THAT CAME OVER FROM THE
SENATE.

SENATE.
AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, EVEN

AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, EVEN
WHEN IT'S A REPUBLICAN TRYING TO

WHEN IT'S A REPUBLICAN TRYING TO
ADD THINGS OR TAKE THINGS OFF OR

ADD THINGS OR TAKE THINGS OFF OR
THE DEMOCRATS ADDING MORE FOR

THE DEMOCRATS ADDING MORE FOR
EDUCATION, THERE SHOULD BE MORE

EDUCATION, THERE SHOULD BE MORE
FOR EDUCATION, BUT THERE SHOULD

FOR EDUCATION, BUT THERE SHOULD
BE MORE THAN WHAT'S THERE RIGHT

BE MORE THAN WHAT'S THERE RIGHT
NOW.

NOW.
TRYING TO TAMPER ANYTHING

TRYING TO TAMPER ANYTHING
FURTHER WOULD JEOPARDIZE

FURTHER WOULD JEOPARDIZE
EVERYTHING AND THAT'S NOT A RISK

EVERYTHING AND THAT'S NOT A RISK
WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE.

WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE.
>> DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT HAD A

>> DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT HAD A
MAJORITY ON THE HOUSE OF

MAJORITY ON THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES IN ARIZONA IN

REPRESENTATIVES IN ARIZONA IN
MORE THAN FOUR DECADES.

MORE THAN FOUR DECADES.
>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN,

>> AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN,
DEMOCRATS ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF

DEMOCRATS ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF
THE GAME AS FAR AS ARIZONA

THE GAME AS FAR AS ARIZONA
POLITICS GO, AND IS THERE A

POLITICS GO, AND IS THERE A
DYNAMIC BEING CREATED THAT COULD

DYNAMIC BEING CREATED THAT COULD
CARRY INTO OTHEL ISSUES.

CARRY INTO OTHEL ISSUES.
>> I WOULD HOPE SO, BUT I TELL

>> I WOULD HOPE SO, BUT I TELL
PEOPLE, WE DEMOCRATS ARE FINALLY

PEOPLE, WE DEMOCRATS ARE FINALLY
RELEVANT, WE ARE NECESSARY TO

RELEVANT, WE ARE NECESSARY TO
GET THE GOVERNOR'S MEDICAID

GET THE GOVERNOR'S MEDICAID
PROGRAM THROUGH, WE'RE MORE THAN

PROGRAM THROUGH, WE'RE MORE THAN
HAPPY TO DO THAT.

HAPPY TO DO THAT.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US
CAMPAIGNED HOPING EXPAND

CAMPAIGNED HOPING EXPAND
MEDICAID TO 133% TO THE FEDERAL

MEDICAID TO 133% TO THE FEDERAL
POVERTY LEVEL.

POVERTY LEVEL.
THAT IS OUR ISSUE AND WHETHER IT

THAT IS OUR ISSUE AND WHETHER IT
TRANSLATES TO COOPERATING AND TO

TRANSLATES TO COOPERATING AND TO
OTHER ISSUES, ONE WOULD HOPE SO.

OTHER ISSUES, ONE WOULD HOPE SO.
BUT THE DYNAMIC THEN CHANGES,

BUT THE DYNAMIC THEN CHANGES,
BECAUSE NEXT YEAR WE WON'T BE

BECAUSE NEXT YEAR WE WON'T BE
DEALING WITH MEDICAID AGAIN AND

DEALING WITH MEDICAID AGAIN AND
BACK TO THE SAME ISSUES AND IT'S

BACK TO THE SAME ISSUES AND IT'S
AN ELECTION YEAR.

AN ELECTION YEAR.
>> ONE OF THE ISSUES IS

>> ONE OF THE ISSUES IS
EDUCATION FUNNING, DEMOCRATS

EDUCATION FUNNING, DEMOCRATS
PRETTY SOLID ON.

PRETTY SOLID ON.
NEEDS TO BE RESTORED, AND

NEEDS TO BE RESTORED, AND
REPUBLICANS SAID WE DON'T HAVE

REPUBLICANS SAID WE DON'T HAVE
THE MONEY YET.

THE MONEY YET.
FIRST OF ALL, IS THE MONEY

FIRST OF ALL, IS THE MONEY
THERE?

THERE?
SECOND, COULD THAT BE AN ISSUE

SECOND, COULD THAT BE AN ISSUE
ON WHICH A COALITION, SUCH AS

ON WHICH A COALITION, SUCH AS
THIS COULD BE FORMED?

THIS COULD BE FORMED?
>> THE MONEY IS THERE.

>> THE MONEY IS THERE.
THE COALITION COULD BE FORMED.

THE COALITION COULD BE FORMED.
I DON'T KNOW IT WILL BE FORMED,

I DON'T KNOW IT WILL BE FORMED,
AND THE MONEY THERE IN THE TUNE

AND THE MONEY THERE IN THE TUNE
OF $450 MILLION THERE RIGHT NOW

OF $450 MILLION THERE RIGHT NOW
LEFT OVER FROM THIS FISCAL YEAR.

LEFT OVER FROM THIS FISCAL YEAR.
EXCUSE ME.

EXCUSE ME.
LAST FISCAL YEAR, AND THERE WILL

LAST FISCAL YEAR, AND THERE WILL
BE $716 MILLION LEFT, SURPLUS

BE $716 MILLION LEFT, SURPLUS
FROM THIS FISCAL YEAR.

FROM THIS FISCAL YEAR.
OVER 1$1.1 BILLION.

OVER 1$1.1 BILLION.
EVEN IF MEDICAID PASSES, WE

EVEN IF MEDICAID PASSES, WE
ANTICIPATE IT WILL, BY 2016, A

ANTICIPATE IT WILL, BY 2016, A
SURPLUS -- STRUCTURAL SURPLUS OF

SURPLUS -- STRUCTURAL SURPLUS OF
$60 MILLION.

$60 MILLION.
WHEREAS IN PRESIDENT BIG'S

WHEREAS IN PRESIDENT BIG'S
DEFICIT BILL BY 2016.

DEFICIT BILL BY 2016.
FISCAL CONSERVATIVES AND

FISCAL CONSERVATIVES AND
CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND MANY

CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND MANY
OTHER BUSINESS GROUPS ENDORSE

OTHER BUSINESS GROUPS ENDORSE
THE MEDICAID EXPANSION.

THE MEDICAID EXPANSION.
>> REPRESENTATIVE BRUCE WHEELER,

>> REPRESENTATIVE BRUCE WHEELER,
DEMOCRAT FROM TUCSON'S TENTH

DEMOCRAT FROM TUCSON'S TENTH
DISTRICT AND MINORITY WHIP IN

DISTRICT AND MINORITY WHIP IN
THE HOUSE, THANK YOU FOR

THE HOUSE, THANK YOU FOR
SPEAKING WITH ME.

SPEAKING WITH ME.
>> THANK YOU, MICHAEL, FOR

>> THANK YOU, MICHAEL, FOR
HAVING ME.

HAVING ME.
>>> NOW, LUIGE DELL PUERTO.

>>> NOW, LUIGE DELL PUERTO.
WELCOME, LUIGE.

WELCOME, LUIGE.
>> THANKS, MICHAEL.

>> THANKS, MICHAEL.
>> WILL WE SEE A BREAK THROUGH

>> WILL WE SEE A BREAK THROUGH
IN THE HOUSE ANY TIME SOON?

IN THE HOUSE ANY TIME SOON?
NEXT WEEK, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE

NEXT WEEK, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE
MEDICAID EXPANSION AND THE

MEDICAID EXPANSION AND THE
BUDGET?

BUDGET?
>> WELL, IT'S UNLIKELY THAT WE

>> WELL, IT'S UNLIKELY THAT WE
WILL SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN NEXT

WILL SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN NEXT
WEEK.

WEEK.
IT'S POSSIBLE THAT -- RIGHT NOW,

IT'S POSSIBLE THAT -- RIGHT NOW,
WHAT'S GOING ON?

WHAT'S GOING ON?
HOUSE SPEAKER ANDY TOBIN TRYING

HOUSE SPEAKER ANDY TOBIN TRYING
TO GET THE VOTES FOR HIS

TO GET THE VOTES FOR HIS
ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL, WHICH IS

ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL, WHICH IS
TO SEND THE MEDICAID EXPANSION

TO SEND THE MEDICAID EXPANSION
QUESTION TO VOTERS, AND SO HE IS

QUESTION TO VOTERS, AND SO HE IS
TRYING TO GET THE VOTES FOR

TRYING TO GET THE VOTES FOR
THAT.

THAT.
WHAT WE'RE HEARING SO FAR, IT'S

WHAT WE'RE HEARING SO FAR, IT'S
NOT THE VOTES IN THIS CHAMBER

NOT THE VOTES IN THIS CHAMBER
AND PRETTY MUCH DOA IN THE

AND PRETTY MUCH DOA IN THE
SENATE AS WELL.

SENATE AS WELL.
>> WHAT -- WHAT DOES HE HAVE

>> WHAT -- WHAT DOES HE HAVE
THERE?

THERE?
WILL HE GIVE UP ON THAT?

WILL HE GIVE UP ON THAT?
OR TRY TO AMEND IN THAT REGARD

OR TRY TO AMEND IN THAT REGARD
AND PUSH A BILL THROUGH?

AND PUSH A BILL THROUGH?
>> WELL, THERE -- THERE IS

>> WELL, THERE -- THERE IS
VARIOUS SPECULATION ABOUT WHAT

VARIOUS SPECULATION ABOUT WHAT
SPEAKER TOBIN IS REALLY WANTING

SPEAKER TOBIN IS REALLY WANTING
TO DO, AND ONE OF THEM IS HE

TO DO, AND ONE OF THEM IS HE
MIGHT JUST WANT TO SHOW THAT HE

MIGHT JUST WANT TO SHOW THAT HE
TRIED HIS BEST.

TRIED HIS BEST.
YOU KNOW, TO PUSH HIS

YOU KNOW, TO PUSH HIS
ALTERNATIVE AND HE WOULD SAY,

ALTERNATIVE AND HE WOULD SAY,
OKAY, GUYS, I TRIED.

OKAY, GUYS, I TRIED.
THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT, AND

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT, AND
SO THE ONLY OPTION LEFT IS

SO THE ONLY OPTION LEFT IS
REALLY THE GOVERNOR'S OPTION.

REALLY THE GOVERNOR'S OPTION.
BUT, OF COURSE, HE IS WORKING

BUT, OF COURSE, HE IS WORKING
IT, WHAT THE INDICATIONS THAT

IT, WHAT THE INDICATIONS THAT
WE'RE GETTING THIS FAR IS THAT

WE'RE GETTING THIS FAR IS THAT
THE GROUPS HE HAS SPOKEN TO,

THE GROUPS HE HAS SPOKEN TO,
WHILE THEY APPRECIATE ALL THE

WHILE THEY APPRECIATE ALL THE
EFFORTS DONE, THAT HE HAS A

EFFORTS DONE, THAT HE HAS A
COUNTERPROPOSAL AND TRYING TO

COUNTERPROPOSAL AND TRYING TO
RESOLVE THE BIG POLICY DEBATE,

RESOLVE THE BIG POLICY DEBATE,
THEY ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THAT,

THEY ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THAT,
BUT ALSO THEY ARE STICKING WITH

BUT ALSO THEY ARE STICKING WITH
OR SIDING WITH THE GOVERNOR, AND

OR SIDING WITH THE GOVERNOR, AND
THAT'S BASICALLY TO EXPAND THE

THAT'S BASICALLY TO EXPAND THE
MEDICAID BY USING A HOSPITAL

MEDICAID BY USING A HOSPITAL
ASSESSMENT AND USING REVENUE FOR

ASSESSMENT AND USING REVENUE FOR
THOSE TO DRAW DOWN FEDERAL

THOSE TO DRAW DOWN FEDERAL
DOLLARS.

DOLLARS.
>> THERE IS STILL A GROUP OF

>> THERE IS STILL A GROUP OF
REPUBLICANS WHO ARE OPPOSED TO

REPUBLICANS WHO ARE OPPOSED TO
THIS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES,

THIS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES,
WHETHER IS GOES TO THE BALLOT OR

WHETHER IS GOES TO THE BALLOT OR
PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE, BUT

PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE, BUT
THEY DON'T HAVE THE VOTES AS I

THEY DON'T HAVE THE VOTES AS I
UNDERSTAND IT.

UNDERSTAND IT.
WHAT ARE YOU HEARING ON THAT?

WHAT ARE YOU HEARING ON THAT?
HAVE THEY CONCEDED THAT THEY

HAVE THEY CONCEDED THAT THEY
CAN'T STOP IT?

CAN'T STOP IT?
>> YEAH.

>> YEAH.
MICHAEL, THERE -- THERE ARE

MICHAEL, THERE -- THERE ARE
ESSENTIALLY THREE SORT OF

ESSENTIALLY THREE SORT OF
OVERARCHING OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE

OVERARCHING OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE
ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW.

ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW.
ONE IS SPEAKER TOBIN'S REFERRAL,

ONE IS SPEAKER TOBIN'S REFERRAL,
THE OTHER IS FOR THE STATE TO

THE OTHER IS FOR THE STATE TO
PAY FOR ACCESS UNDER PROPOSITION

PAY FOR ACCESS UNDER PROPOSITION
204, AND THIRD IS THE GOVERNMENT

204, AND THIRD IS THE GOVERNMENT
EXPANSION PLAN.

EXPANSION PLAN.
OF THREE PROPOSALS, ONLY ONE HAS

OF THREE PROPOSALS, ONLY ONE HAS
THE VOTES THAT WE KNOW OF TO

THE VOTES THAT WE KNOW OF TO
PASS AND THAT'S THE GOVERNOR'S

PASS AND THAT'S THE GOVERNOR'S
PROPOSAL.

PROPOSAL.
>> AND REPRESENTATIVE ETHAN ORR

>> AND REPRESENTATIVE ETHAN ORR
TOLD US IN AN INTERVIEW EARLIER

TOLD US IN AN INTERVIEW EARLIER
ON THE PROGRAM THAT HE COUNTS

ON THE PROGRAM THAT HE COUNTS
EIGHT REPUBLICANS, IN FAVOR OF

EIGHT REPUBLICANS, IN FAVOR OF
IT, WHICH GIVES THEM A MAJORITY

IT, WHICH GIVES THEM A MAJORITY
OF 32 COMBINED WITH DEMOCRATS.

OF 32 COMBINED WITH DEMOCRATS.
WHAT IS YOUR COUNT?

WHAT IS YOUR COUNT?
WHAT ARE YOU SEEING?

WHAT ARE YOU SEEING?
>> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING AS

>> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING AS
WELL.

WELL.
EIGHT HOUSE REPUBLICAN MEMBERS

EIGHT HOUSE REPUBLICAN MEMBERS
JOINING 24 HOUSE DEMOCRATIC

JOINING 24 HOUSE DEMOCRATIC
MEMBERS AND ENOUGH TO GET THE

MEMBERS AND ENOUGH TO GET THE
MINIMUM VOTE.

MINIMUM VOTE.
31 IN THE HOUSE TO PASS.

31 IN THE HOUSE TO PASS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE EXPECTED AT

AND, YOU KNOW, WE EXPECTED AT
LEAST THREE IN THE SENATE,

LEAST THREE IN THE SENATE,
TURNED OUT THERE WERE SIX

TURNED OUT THERE WERE SIX
REPUBLICANS WHO VOTED FOR THE

REPUBLICANS WHO VOTED FOR THE
GOVERNOR'S EXPANSION PLAN.

GOVERNOR'S EXPANSION PLAN.
VERY LIKELY WE WOULD SEE NOT

VERY LIKELY WE WOULD SEE NOT
EIGHT, BUT PERHAPS MORE THAN

EIGHT, BUT PERHAPS MORE THAN
EIGHT EVENTUALLY SUPPORTING THE

EIGHT EVENTUALLY SUPPORTING THE
GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL.

GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL.
HERE IS THE OTHER THING TOO.

HERE IS THE OTHER THING TOO.
AND IF SPEAKER TOBIN DECIDED

AND IF SPEAKER TOBIN DECIDED
THAT THE ONLY OPTION LEFT ON THE

THAT THE ONLY OPTION LEFT ON THE
TABLE IS THE GOVERNOR'S

TABLE IS THE GOVERNOR'S
PROPOSAL, AND HE IS SOMEHOW ABLE

PROPOSAL, AND HE IS SOMEHOW ABLE
TO GET WHAT HE WANTS TO BE

TO GET WHAT HE WANTS TO BE
INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSAL IN THE

INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSAL IN THE
PROPOSAL, WE COULD SEE HIM

PROPOSAL, WE COULD SEE HIM
SUPPORTING IT.

SUPPORTING IT.
IF HE DID, THERE COULD BE A

IF HE DID, THERE COULD BE A
CASCADE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD --

CASCADE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD --
YOU COULD SEE OTHER MEMBERS AS

YOU COULD SEE OTHER MEMBERS AS
WELL SAYING, WELL, OUR

WELL SAYING, WELL, OUR
LEADERSHIP IS SUPPORTING IT, WE

LEADERSHIP IS SUPPORTING IT, WE
MIGHT AS WELL DO IT.

MIGHT AS WELL DO IT.
>> PERHAPS GETTING THAT 2/3 THAT

>> PERHAPS GETTING THAT 2/3 THAT
EVERYBODY HAS BEEN TALKING

EVERYBODY HAS BEEN TALKING
ABOUT, SOME PEOPLE SAY IS NEEDED

ABOUT, SOME PEOPLE SAY IS NEEDED
TO PASS THIS?

TO PASS THIS?
>> WELL, IT'S VERY LIKELY IF THE

>> WELL, IT'S VERY LIKELY IF THE
SPEAKER IS GOING TO SUPPORT THE

SPEAKER IS GOING TO SUPPORT THE
PROPOSAL.

PROPOSAL.
I GUESS TO A HUGE EXTENT REALLY

I GUESS TO A HUGE EXTENT REALLY
HINGES ON WHAT THE SPEAKER DOES

HINGES ON WHAT THE SPEAKER DOES
NOW.

NOW.
EVEN IF THEY GET 2/3 IN THE

EVEN IF THEY GET 2/3 IN THE
HOUSE AND THAT PROPOSAL IS

HOUSE AND THAT PROPOSAL IS
AMENDED THERE, IT HAS TO GO BACK

AMENDED THERE, IT HAS TO GO BACK
TO THE SENATE FOR CONCURRENCE.

TO THE SENATE FOR CONCURRENCE.
AND SHOULD THAT HAPPEN, THEN WE

AND SHOULD THAT HAPPEN, THEN WE
ARE LOOKING AT ANOTHER VOTE IN

ARE LOOKING AT ANOTHER VOTE IN
THE SENATE, AND, OF COURSE, THEY

THE SENATE, AND, OF COURSE, THEY
WOULD NEED 20 VOTES TO SATISFY

WOULD NEED 20 VOTES TO SATISFY
THE 2/3 MAJORITY.

THE 2/3 MAJORITY.
>> THE GOVERNOR EXERCISED HER

>> THE GOVERNOR EXERCISED HER
MORATORIUM IF YOU WILL BY

MORATORIUM IF YOU WILL BY
VETOING FIVE BILLS THIS WEEK.

VETOING FIVE BILLS THIS WEEK.
WHICH IS WHAT SHE PROMISED TO DO

WHICH IS WHAT SHE PROMISED TO DO
IF THEY HADN'T PASSED A BUDGET

IF THEY HADN'T PASSED A BUDGET
WITH MEDICAID EXPANSION IN IT.

WITH MEDICAID EXPANSION IN IT.
DID THAT GET ANYBODY'S

DID THAT GET ANYBODY'S
ATTENTION?

ATTENTION?
OR HAVE THINGS ALREADY PRETTY

OR HAVE THINGS ALREADY PRETTY
MUCH BEEN SETTLED?

MUCH BEEN SETTLED?
>> IT'S INTERESTING.

>> IT'S INTERESTING.
BECAUSE THERE ARE THREE SORT OF

BECAUSE THERE ARE THREE SORT OF
TIME PERIODS.

TIME PERIODS.
WHEN THE GOVERNOR SAID FIRST,

WHEN THE GOVERNOR SAID FIRST,
SLOW DOWN.

SLOW DOWN.
YOUR PO

YOUR PO
YOUR WORK ON PASSING BILLS AND

YOUR WORK ON PASSING BILLS AND
SHE SAID UNLESS THERE IS

SHE SAID UNLESS THERE IS
SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS ON THE

SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS ON THE
BUDGET, DON'T SEND ME ANY BILLS.

BUDGET, DON'T SEND ME ANY BILLS.
THAT WAS A FEW WEEKS AGO AND

THAT WAS A FEW WEEKS AGO AND
RECENTLY, THIS WEEK, SHE

RECENTLY, THIS WEEK, SHE
REITERATED THAT AND SAID UNLESS

REITERATED THAT AND SAID UNLESS
YOU MAKE SOME SUBSTANTIAL

YOU MAKE SOME SUBSTANTIAL
PROGRESS ON THESE TWO ITEMS AND

PROGRESS ON THESE TWO ITEMS AND
IN FACT, NOT COUNTING THE

IN FACT, NOT COUNTING THE
SENATE'S PASSAGE OF THE MEDICAID

SENATE'S PASSAGE OF THE MEDICAID
EXPANSION PLAN AND THEIR BUDGET,

EXPANSION PLAN AND THEIR BUDGET,
AS SATISFYING HER REQUESTS OF

AS SATISFYING HER REQUESTS OF
HER PLEA, THEN SHE WILL NOT SIGN

HER PLEA, THEN SHE WILL NOT SIGN
BILLS, AND THERE WERE SOME WHO

BILLS, AND THERE WERE SOME WHO
MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT THAT MAYBE

MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT THAT MAYBE
THERE WAS SOME FLEXIBILITY

THERE WAS SOME FLEXIBILITY
THERE.

THERE.
I WAS TALKING TO ANDY BIGGS

I WAS TALKING TO ANDY BIGGS
YESTERDAY, AND HE SAID, WELL,

YESTERDAY, AND HE SAID, WELL,
SHE HAS NOT TOLD ME NOT TO SEND

SHE HAS NOT TOLD ME NOT TO SEND
HER UP BILLS.

HER UP BILLS.
YESTERDAY, THE GOVERNOR MADE

YESTERDAY, THE GOVERNOR MADE
VERY CLEAR EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING

VERY CLEAR EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING
TO HAPPEN IF THEY KEPT SENDING

TO HAPPEN IF THEY KEPT SENDING
HER BILLS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE

HER BILLS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE
HER VETO STAMP WAITING FOR THOSE

HER VETO STAMP WAITING FOR THOSE
BILLS.

BILLS.
>> REPUBLICANS SAID THIS IS A

>> REPUBLICANS SAID THIS IS A
ONE-TIME PHENOMENON AND WILL

ONE-TIME PHENOMENON AND WILL
COME BACK TOGETHER AND BE UNITED

COME BACK TOGETHER AND BE UNITED
ONCE THE ISSUE IS SETTLED.

ONCE THE ISSUE IS SETTLED.
DO YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING?

DO YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING?
IS THIS A CHANGE IN THE

IS THIS A CHANGE IN THE
STRUCTURAL DYNAMIC AT THE

STRUCTURAL DYNAMIC AT THE
CAPITAL?

CAPITAL?
>> TOUGH TO SAY WHAT IS GOING TO

>> TOUGH TO SAY WHAT IS GOING TO
HAPPEN AFTER.

HAPPEN AFTER.
A VERY BIG ISSUE.

A VERY BIG ISSUE.
WE ANTICIPATE THIS ISSUE WILL

WE ANTICIPATE THIS ISSUE WILL
STILL OVER TO THE ELECTIONS NEXT

STILL OVER TO THE ELECTIONS NEXT
YEAR.

YEAR.
AND THAT'S MORE THAN A YEAR

AND THAT'S MORE THAN A YEAR
AWAY.

AWAY.
BUT TO ANY EXTENT IT ONLY HAS TO

BUT TO ANY EXTENT IT ONLY HAS TO
REAFFIRMED REALLY THE FACTIONS

REAFFIRMED REALLY THE FACTIONS
WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN

WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN
THE SENATE AND IN THE HOUSE AS

THE SENATE AND IN THE HOUSE AS
WELL.

WELL.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, IS WE HAVE

WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, IS WE HAVE
ALWAYS REGARDED THE SENATE

ALWAYS REGARDED THE SENATE
REPUBLICAN CAUCUS AS SPLINTERED.

REPUBLICAN CAUCUS AS SPLINTERED.
THOSE WHO ARE MORE MAINSTREAM

THOSE WHO ARE MORE MAINSTREAM
AND THOSE WE CONSIDER MORE TEA

AND THOSE WE CONSIDER MORE TEA
PARTY AND IF ANYTHING DEVELOPS

PARTY AND IF ANYTHING DEVELOPS
ON THE MEDICAID SIDE OF THE

ON THE MEDICAID SIDE OF THE
SENATE AFFIRM THE LINES IN THE

SENATE AFFIRM THE LINES IN THE
REPUBLICAN CAUCUS.

REPUBLICAN CAUCUS.
>> LESS THAN A MINUTE REMAINING,

>> LESS THAN A MINUTE REMAINING,
L

L
LUIGE.

LUIGE.
CAN PERHAPS SOME OTHER THINGS BE

CAN PERHAPS SOME OTHER THINGS BE
GAINED BY DEMOCRATS?

GAINED BY DEMOCRATS?
>> THE FACT THAT THEY GOT WHAT

>> THE FACT THAT THEY GOT WHAT
THEY WANTED IN THE SENATE

THEY WANTED IN THE SENATE
BUDGET.

BUDGET.
AND INITIALLY THEY HAD OFFERED

AND INITIALLY THEY HAD OFFERED
AMENDMENTS THAT WERE VOTED DOWN

AMENDMENTS THAT WERE VOTED DOWN
AND THEN WHETHER THEWHEN THERE

AND THEN WHETHER THEWHEN THERE
AN ACTUAL ROLL CALL, SEVERAL

AN ACTUAL ROLL CALL, SEVERAL
REPUBLICANS VOTED WITH THE

REPUBLICANS VOTED WITH THE
DEFENDANTS TO SUPPORT THEM AND

DEFENDANTS TO SUPPORT THEM AND
ABLE TO GET THEM SUCCESSFULLY ON

ABLE TO GET THEM SUCCESSFULLY ON
THE BUDGET.

THE BUDGET.
THE COALITION WE'RE SEEING COULD

THE COALITION WE'RE SEEING COULD
POTENTIALLY EXPAND BEYOND THE

POTENTIALLY EXPAND BEYOND THE
SESSION AND WE MIGHT SEE THAT

SESSION AND WE MIGHT SEE THAT
CROP UP AGAIN IN OTHER MAJOR

CROP UP AGAIN IN OTHER MAJOR
ISSUES, A VERY LIKELY AND

ISSUES, A VERY LIKELY AND
POSSIBLE SCENARIO.

POSSIBLE SCENARIO.
>> LUI FWNCH E DEGE DELL PUERTOU

>> LUI FWNCH E DEGE DELL PUERTOU
FOR BEING WITH ME.

FOR BEING WITH ME.
>> THANK YOU, MICHAEL.

>> THANK YOU, MICHAEL.
>> MORE ON THE STATEHOUSE AT A

>> MORE ON THE STATEHOUSE AT A
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THAT'S OUR PROGRAM.

THAT'S OUR PROGRAM.
FOR "ARIZONA WEEK," I'M MICHAEL

FOR "ARIZONA WEEK," I'M MICHAEL
CHIHAK.