WEBVTT 00:01.835 --> 00:08.074 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: I was bequeathed it from my father. My father, uh, bought this sometime in the, 00:08.074 --> 00:12.312 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% I think it was the early to mid-'70s. I was, like, ten. My dad bought this from 00:12.312 --> 00:17.417 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Gustave Baumann's widow when she had come to Colorado State University. She was selling 00:17.417 --> 00:20.754 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% some of his work to raise money, selling from the estate. And this one always stopped him. 00:20.754 --> 00:21.321 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: Yeah, yeah, not hard to see why. (chuckles) 00:21.321 --> 00:22.355 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% GUEST: No, it's... 00:22.355 --> 00:23.923 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% APPRAISER: These colors are beautiful. 00:23.923 --> 00:25.992 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: It's... Yeah, it's just... It says everything about the West, uh... 00:25.992 --> 00:28.261 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% APPRAISER: Sure. 00:28.261 --> 00:34.634 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% GUEST: And so he bought it for, like, $125, along with another one, which was, like, aspens in the 00:34.634 --> 00:37.771 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% mountains, or spring in the aspens. It's also-- he also gave that one to me, but this is my favorite. 00:37.771 --> 00:40.106 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: Was that included in the $125? Or this was $125. 00:40.106 --> 00:43.176 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: No, they, they were each $125. They were in my family home growing up. 00:43.176 --> 00:46.212 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: Yeah, I mean, you spoke about how this... It, it 00:46.212 --> 00:48.014 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% stopped him in his tracks, and this was his print. 00:48.014 --> 00:50.517 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% GUEST: Yeah. APPRAISER: It would me, too. The colors on this 00:50.517 --> 00:52.952 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% are absolutely beautiful. The artist is Gustave Baumann, you know that. 00:52.952 --> 00:54.687 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Yes. 00:54.687 --> 00:58.091 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: He was actually born in Germany and came over to the States 00:58.091 --> 01:01.327 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% as a child with his family, and was living in the Midwest. 01:01.327 --> 01:02.295 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% GUEST: Uh-huh. Midwest, okay. 01:02.295 --> 01:07.934 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: He trained in Chicago and worked in Indiana, and it wasn't until 01:07.934 --> 01:12.272 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% about 1918 that he made his way down to New Mexico. He was intending to go to Taos. 01:13.840 --> 01:15.475 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% He got to Taos and he thought it was too busy. 01:15.475 --> 01:17.444 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% GUEST (laughs): Okay. 01:17.444 --> 01:19.846 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: So a friend persuaded him, a friend persuaded him... 01:19.846 --> 01:21.548 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Mm-hmm. 01:21.548 --> 01:26.486 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% APPRAISER: ...to move on to Santa Fe. So he gets to Santa Fe and basically plants himself there, 01:26.486 --> 01:35.328 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% and works in Santa Fe for the next five-plus decades. And his imagery have become synonymous 01:35.328 --> 01:40.934 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% with the Southwest. He and the Southwest are so intertwined, and New Mexico, and this feel... 01:40.934 --> 01:42.535 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% GUEST: Yeah. APPRAISER: ...of, of the Southwest. 01:42.535 --> 01:42.602 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% GUEST: The feel of... APPRAISER: It's... 01:42.602 --> 01:44.804 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% GUEST: The light, he got the light just right. 01:44.804 --> 01:47.707 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: The light through those colors is amazing. 01:47.707 --> 01:49.175 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: I know. 01:49.175 --> 01:54.681 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: And the appreciation for his work has just grown over the past couple of decades, 01:54.681 --> 02:01.387 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% and he is super-hot now. Baumann made the original blocks for this color woodcut in 1926, 02:01.387 --> 02:07.327 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% which is just about eight years after he arrived in Santa Fe. And this, you can see, of course, 02:07.327 --> 02:14.901 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% is titled Rain in the Mountains. This is from the fourth edition. He printed four editions of this 02:14.901 --> 02:21.074 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% subject over a 30-year period, starting in 1926, and completing with this fourth and final edition 02:21.074 --> 02:29.449 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in 1956. The fourth edition is from an intended edition of 50. That's why it's numbered 19 of 50. 02:29.449 --> 02:34.821 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% And the "R-C" next to that numbering means the blocks were recut, reshaped by him... 02:34.821 --> 02:35.822 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% GUEST: Oh. APPRAISER: ...to produce this fourth edition. 02:35.822 --> 02:36.990 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Uh-huh. 02:36.990 --> 02:40.393 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: This is the smallest edition, but there are all these intense colors. 02:40.393 --> 02:42.328 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Yeah. 02:42.328 --> 02:45.331 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: And what's great about this, too, is the way that the rain is coming down. 02:45.331 --> 02:47.066 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Yeah. 02:47.066 --> 02:50.570 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: In strips from... That, that's just such a great talent, 02:50.570 --> 02:53.540 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% to be able to pull that off by cutting a wood block. And then he mixed all the colors himself, 02:55.842 --> 02:58.878 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% signed it in pencil, titled it, and then this is his hand in heart... 02:58.878 --> 03:01.714 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Oh. 03:01.714 --> 03:06.786 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% APPRAISER: ...ink stamp, which he used on, on his color woodcuts, just his sort of monogram symbol. 03:06.786 --> 03:07.187 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% GUEST: Uh-huh. APPRAISER: The appreciation for these... 03:07.187 --> 03:08.555 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Uh-huh. 03:08.555 --> 03:12.859 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: ...like I said, the past couple of decades, has just increased exponentially. 03:12.859 --> 03:16.996 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% GUEST (laughing): Okay, now I'm really nervous. 03:16.996 --> 03:20.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: Would you have... Any guess as to what its value is? 03:20.300 --> 03:21.201 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% GUEST: Well... APPRAISER: Like... 03:21.201 --> 03:25.738 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: I, I, I guessed that, 'cause, um, I know he's popular, but I thought ten times 03:25.738 --> 03:29.842 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% what my dad bought. You know, so, $1,250 or something, $2,000, something like that. 03:29.842 --> 03:31.945 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: So you're in the thousands. This is a great image. 03:31.945 --> 03:33.346 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Uh-huh. 03:33.346 --> 03:37.217 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: It's, it's... The more evocative you get with his imagery of the Southwest, 03:37.217 --> 03:39.852 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% the better. It's also one of the larger color woodcuts. 03:39.852 --> 03:41.054 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Uh-huh. 03:41.054 --> 03:43.890 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% APPRAISER: So it's got everything going for it. The colors are also perfect, 03:43.890 --> 03:46.859 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% like the day they were printed. It's, that's tough 03:46.859 --> 03:49.896 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% to find. I would put a replacement value or insurance value on this... 03:49.896 --> 03:51.831 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% GUEST: Uh-huh. APPRAISER: ...at $50,000. 03:51.831 --> 03:54.534 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST (gasping): Oh, my God! That is so much more than I thought. 03:54.534 --> 03:56.502 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% APPRAISER: I think it was. 03:56.502 --> 03:58.738 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% GUEST: Oh, that is so much more than I thought. 03:58.738 --> 04:02.208 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% APPRAISER: Yeah, it's, it's a phenomenal print. 04:02.208 --> 04:06.446 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: Okay, I, um... I, okay, I'm, I'm going to have to do something about that. 04:06.446 --> 04:06.779 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% APPRAISER: (chuckles) GUEST: Yeah. 04:06.779 --> 04:08.581 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% APPRAISER: It's just a beautiful image. 04:08.581 --> 04:08.948 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: Oh, thank you. APPRAISER: Thank you so much for bringing it in. 04:08.948 --> 04:11.851 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% GUEST: I, I, thank you for letting me know. That's 04:11.851 --> 04:14.787 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% really amazing. (laughing): Really, really amazing. 04:14.787 --> 04:15.321 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% APPRAISER: (chuckling): It's an amazing image. 04:15.321 --> 04:17.023 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% GUEST: Yeah, thank you. 04:17.023 --> 04:19.492 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: Yeah. GUEST: It's always been of value to me, 04:19.492 --> 04:23.930 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% and now I'm going to go to an insurance agent and make sure that I've got it covered. 04:23.930 --> 04:25.531 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: Yeah. This one, this one sums up Baumann so well. 04:25.531 --> 04:27.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% GUEST: Yeah. (both laughing) 04:27.700 --> 04:32.205 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: I feel like I'm having trouble breathing a little bit. Oh, my God, you're kidding. 04:32.205 --> 04:32.472 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER (laughing): No. GUEST: I mean, really? 04:32.472 --> 04:32.972 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (both laughing)