WEBVTT 00:01.735 --> 00:04.437 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% GUEST: My grandfather gave it to me back in, like, 00:04.437 --> 00:10.510 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% around 1955, 1956. I think the cool thing about it is, is it's, it's white 00:10.510 --> 00:13.947 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and it was used in the NFL for night games back in the early '50s for about six years, I think. 00:13.947 --> 00:14.814 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% APPRAISER: Mm-hmm. 00:14.814 --> 00:16.483 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% GUEST: But the other thing is, it's autographed by Otto Graham. 00:16.483 --> 00:19.285 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% APPRAISER: Let's look at that panel right there. 00:19.285 --> 00:21.654 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: Yeah. It's a little faded. My grand, grandfather's name was True. "To True, 00:21.654 --> 00:24.657 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% best wishes to a swell guy, Otto Graham." 00:24.657 --> 00:27.694 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: Nice, so how did they know one another? 00:27.694 --> 00:30.630 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: I'm not sure. I was only, I was only, like, nine or ten years old. 00:30.630 --> 00:36.069 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% My grandfather was a very charismatic guy and he was a huge sports fan. And I knew even 00:36.069 --> 00:39.239 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% back then there was some connection with the Browns, I'm... I'm still not sure what it was, 00:39.239 --> 00:43.476 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% but he referred to Paul Brown and Otto Graham as Paul and Otto. My impression was that 00:43.476 --> 00:47.113 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% he did know them on a first-name basis, and, and that would be typical for him. 00:47.113 --> 00:50.383 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: And a lot of people don't know really how Otto Graham got started. He is 00:50.383 --> 00:52.519 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. 00:52.519 --> 00:53.486 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Yeah. 00:53.486 --> 00:56.156 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: And in an era where passing was not as prevalent... 00:56.156 --> 00:57.757 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% GUEST: Yeah. Yeah. 00:57.757 --> 01:02.028 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: ...as it is in today's NFL. He came to Paul Brown's attention. Paul Brown, 01:02.028 --> 01:03.263 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% one of the legendary coaches... 01:03.263 --> 01:04.164 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Yeah. 01:04.164 --> 01:05.298 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: ...and the Cleveland Browns were named after him. 01:05.298 --> 01:07.200 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Yeah. 01:07.200 --> 01:10.336 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: And Paul recruited him for the All-American Football Conference and paid him 01:12.939 --> 01:16.843 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% $7,500-- which at the time, in 1946, is the equivalent of, like, $100,000 today... 01:16.843 --> 01:17.477 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% GUEST: Yeah. Yeah. 01:17.477 --> 01:19.746 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% APPRAISER: ...to be his quarterback. 01:19.746 --> 01:22.282 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And of course, O, Graham did not disappoint. Four championships. 01:22.282 --> 01:23.750 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Yup. 01:23.750 --> 01:27.087 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: And then they were able to get into the NFL in 1950... 01:27.087 --> 01:28.154 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% GUEST: Yeah. APPRAISER: ...and three more championships. 01:28.154 --> 01:29.923 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Yeah. 01:29.923 --> 01:32.692 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: Now, interestingly enough, you know, we're talking about two things: we're 01:32.692 --> 01:36.229 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% talking about Otto Graham, but we're also talking about this football and what makes it special. 01:36.229 --> 01:37.664 align:left position:30% line:77% size:60% GUEST: Yeah. APPRAISER: It's white! 01:37.664 --> 01:41.768 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% White footballs were first produced for night games in the NFL. 01:41.768 --> 01:44.104 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% GUEST: Yeah. APPRAISER: The first night game was November 6, 01:44.104 --> 01:50.343 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% 1929. It was the Chicago Cardinals, before they made it to St. Louis and now Arizona, 01:50.343 --> 01:52.712 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and it was the Providence Steamroller, and that's when they used the white ball for the first time. 01:52.712 --> 01:53.913 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% GUEST: Oh, interesting. 01:53.913 --> 01:55.348 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: Now, do you know what Otto Graham thought of the white football? 01:55.348 --> 01:57.517 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% GUEST: No, I don't. 01:57.517 --> 02:01.154 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: He hated it! (both laughing) He said they were slippery in his hands. 02:01.154 --> 02:02.889 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Oh... 02:02.889 --> 02:07.160 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% APPRAISER: He couldn't get as good a grip to throw them. Graham retired after the 1955 season. 02:07.160 --> 02:08.228 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Yeah. 02:08.228 --> 02:11.064 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: He actually wanted to retire after '54. He wanted 02:11.064 --> 02:13.366 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% to go out in that first blaze of glory with the la, his last NFL championship. 02:13.366 --> 02:14.734 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Yeah. 02:14.734 --> 02:18.171 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: But Paul Brown lured Otto back for another year... 02:18.171 --> 02:20.974 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% GUEST: Ah. APPRAISER: ...for the equivalent of over $200,000. 02:20.974 --> 02:23.409 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Wow. He was the highest-paid player in the NFL, and deservedly so. 02:23.409 --> 02:24.210 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% GUEST: Yeah. Yeah. 02:24.210 --> 02:27.046 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: And lead them to the final championship in 1955. 02:27.046 --> 02:27.780 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% GUEST: Yeah, yep. 02:27.780 --> 02:28.781 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% APPRAISER: Have you had it appraised? 02:28.781 --> 02:31.117 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% GUEST: No. APPRAISER: What do you think it's worth? 02:31.117 --> 02:35.021 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: I know it's somewhat rare. I mean, I would think somewhere between $500, $1,000. 02:35.021 --> 02:35.255 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% APPRAISER: $500,000? (laughing) 02:37.390 --> 02:39.993 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% GUEST: No, no, $500 and $1,000. (laughing) 02:39.993 --> 02:40.460 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% APPRAISER: And up to $1,000. 02:40.460 --> 02:41.461 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% GUEST: Yeah, yeah. 02:41.461 --> 02:42.762 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% APPRAISER: This is a rare football. 02:42.762 --> 02:44.297 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Yeah. 02:44.297 --> 02:49.369 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: I, I'm, I don't know if, if one, another one actually exists that's, that's signed 02:49.369 --> 02:52.338 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% by Otto Graham. The other thing about this football is, we don't know the exact provenance. 02:52.338 --> 02:53.973 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: No. 02:53.973 --> 02:58.578 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: We're assuming that it was probably used or issued for a game, at the very least. 02:58.578 --> 03:00.480 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% And that's what I'm going to value it... GUEST: My grandfather kind of implied 03:00.480 --> 03:02.315 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% that it was, but no proof. 03:02.315 --> 03:04.117 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% APPRAISER: Now, it's not a great signature. 03:04.117 --> 03:05.218 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% GUEST: Sure. APPRAISER: Definitely has, has aged. 03:05.218 --> 03:06.553 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Yeah. 03:06.553 --> 03:09.155 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: And Otto Graham signatures are not rare, because he passed away in 2003. 03:09.155 --> 03:10.490 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Yeah. 03:10.490 --> 03:15.061 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: But he signed this contemporaneous with his career... 03:15.061 --> 03:17.463 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% GUEST: Yeah. APPRAISER: ...which makes this, again, 03:17.463 --> 03:21.601 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% rare and desirable, even though it's not in great condition. If I were putting an auction 03:21.601 --> 03:22.468 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% estimate on it... GUEST: Uh-huh. 03:22.468 --> 03:24.103 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% APPRAISER: ...I'd put $2,500 to $3,000. 03:24.103 --> 03:28.875 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% GUEST: Okay. Okay. That's great. 03:28.875 --> 03:31.411 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: To insure it, I'd insure it for at least $5,000. 03:31.411 --> 03:44.490 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% GUEST: Okay. That's good. That's great.