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GUEST: It's been sitting in my
house since I was born. My mom
just recently told me that her
mother

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said a guy down the street made
it. (chuckles) Her mother grew
up in San Francisco, and,

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on Church Street, and so
presumably some guy down the
street on Church Street made it.
(chuckles)

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APPRAISER: And do we
know the guy's name?

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GUEST: Only look on
the internet in the

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last few days do I have a clue.
Mm-hmm. A guy named Fred Brosi.

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APPRAISER: Mm-hmm.

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GUEST: But otherwise, that's
pretty much all I know.

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APPRAISER: Are you the one who
knocked this off the shelf?

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GUEST: (stammering) I, I, We,
there were five kids in my
house.

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APPRAISER: (laughing)

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GUEST: I don't know who did it.

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APPRAISER: Aw, you're throwing
another one of them under the
bus. So if you see,

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this lamp isn't sitting exactly
flush, and there's a reason for
that. At some point,

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this lamp was knocked over.
And you can see the dent here.

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GUEST: Yeah.

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APPRAISER: In front, and you can
see where... It probably went
this way.

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GUEST: Oh, yeah.

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APPRAISER: The lamp is Old
Mission Kopperkraft, and it's
marked Old

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Mission Kopperkraft. This is a
die-stamped mark. And it's
Kopper with a K and Kraft with a
K.

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GUEST: Yes, okay, all right.

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APPRAISER: That's the, that's
the firm's logo. And Brosi was
involved with Old Mission
Kopperkraft.

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Does that mean that he did every
lamp by hand? It's possible--
I'm, I'm not sure that's true.
It,

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what I like about this and why I
wanted to talk about this is,
number one, I don't think

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we've had a lamp by Old Mission
Kopperkraft or any piece on
ROADSHOW before. And number two,

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we have had lamps by Dirk van
Erp on ROADSHOW. And there's a
relationship between the two.

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They're both from the Bay Area.
They both define the Bay Area
style. It's a

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classic San Francisco look, mica
and wrought copper throwing out
moody, diffused light in

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the Arts and Crafts style. Van
Erp would have been earlier.
This was 1922 to '25. They only

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lasted three years. This is a
combination of a handmade and a
mass-produced lamp. For example,

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if you look at the bottom, this
is all hand-done. This is a
hand-wrought piece

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of copper. These hand-twisted
stems end in rivets that go
through the bottom.

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GUEST: Oh, yeah.

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APPRAISER: So you know those,
those aren't for show, but the
shade is more a spun shade. And

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those hammer marks that are on
the shade are not integral to
the formation of the shade.

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GUEST: Oh. APPRAISER: The shade
was formed, and the hammer

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marks were put there afterwards
to make it look like it's
hand-wrought.

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GUEST: Oh. APPRAISER: So
those hammer marks are real.

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GUEST: Okay.

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APPRAISER: These
are sort of fake.

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GUEST: Okay.

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APPRAISER: Also, if you look on
the shade, you see these little

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thingies? Almost make it look
like the shade's riveted the way
the base is.

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GUEST: Yeah.

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APPRAISER: But they're not,
those are just little raised
points.

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GUEST: Ah...

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APPRAISER: So this is trying to
look more hand-wrought than it
really is.

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GUEST: Okay.

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APPRAISER: Nevertheless, it's a
super-rare lamp. I've seen a lot
of Old Mission Kopperkraft
lamps.

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I've not seen this form before.
They tend to be more circular.
What do you feel this is worth?

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GUEST: So when I looked online,
I saw round ones in, like, the
neighborhood of, like,

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$1,500, maybe $2,000, but I
couldn't find anything square.
So I don't know.

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APPRAISER: I would estimate
this for $3,500 to $4,500,

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and I would expect it to bring
between $4,000 and $5,000 at
auction.

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GUEST: Okay.
APPRAISER: Yeah.

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GUEST: Oh, wow, that's
more than I expected.

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APPRAISER: It's a
very nice example.

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GUEST: Yeah, well, that was
from the guy down the street.

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(both chuckle)