1 00:00:00,833 --> 00:00:04,200 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,266 CORAL PEÑA: "Antiques Roadshow Recut" is highlighting 3 00:00:06,266 --> 00:00:09,000 "Roadshow's" first-ever outdoor event in Newport, Rhode Island. 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,833 (laughs): Awesome! 5 00:00:10,833 --> 00:00:12,633 Crazy. 6 00:00:12,633 --> 00:00:14,333 Absolutely crazy. 7 00:00:14,333 --> 00:00:15,800 PEÑA: Stay tuned for part one 8 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,233 of "Antiques Roadshow Recut: Rosecliff." 9 00:00:18,233 --> 00:00:21,533 ♪ ♪ 10 00:00:36,766 --> 00:00:38,466 PEÑA: Rosecliff Mansion, the so-called summer cottage 11 00:00:38,466 --> 00:00:40,300 of heiress Theresa "Tessie" Oelrichs, 12 00:00:40,300 --> 00:00:42,533 was the perfect location for our "Roadshow" event 13 00:00:42,533 --> 00:00:44,366 back in 2017. 14 00:00:44,366 --> 00:00:45,833 Less than perfect? 15 00:00:45,833 --> 00:00:49,200 The weather conditions brought to Newport by Hurricane Jose. 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,266 But the storm couldn't dampen the spirits 17 00:00:51,266 --> 00:00:53,333 of our guests and appraisers. 18 00:00:53,333 --> 00:00:56,400 So imagine, you are invited to a party here. 19 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,266 You're coming off the back porch, 20 00:00:58,266 --> 00:00:59,633 you're walking down to see the water. 21 00:00:59,633 --> 00:01:01,933 In a gown. In a gown. 22 00:01:01,933 --> 00:01:03,400 And you're wearing this. 23 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:04,633 Tell us what you brought in. 24 00:01:04,633 --> 00:01:06,633 The pin belonged to my grandmother, 25 00:01:06,633 --> 00:01:08,000 who lived in Chicago. 26 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,133 I don't know where she bought it. 27 00:01:11,133 --> 00:01:12,800 I don't know what it's worth. 28 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,233 And never had it appraised, did you? 29 00:01:14,233 --> 00:01:15,700 Never had it appraised. 30 00:01:15,700 --> 00:01:17,066 We love people like you 31 00:01:17,066 --> 00:01:18,266 when you come in here with that. 32 00:01:18,266 --> 00:01:19,966 Lack of information. 33 00:01:19,966 --> 00:01:21,800 Lack of information, solid lack. 34 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,133 Right. (laughs) 35 00:01:23,133 --> 00:01:25,800 You see, I'm just standing here, and it's moving. 36 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,666 In the wind. Is that fantastic? 37 00:01:27,666 --> 00:01:28,600 It is lovely. 38 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,666 Imagine if you were dancing 39 00:01:29,666 --> 00:01:33,100 in this house, you know, in 1940, 40 00:01:33,100 --> 00:01:35,633 because that's about when I think this pin was made. Okay. 41 00:01:35,633 --> 00:01:37,166 I think the pin was added. 42 00:01:37,166 --> 00:01:39,433 I think it was always made 43 00:01:39,433 --> 00:01:42,700 to have some type of a chain running through it, 44 00:01:42,700 --> 00:01:44,200 and it hung as a necklace. 45 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,300 Not that it doesn't work as a pin. Okay. 46 00:01:46,300 --> 00:01:48,233 It reminds me of a waterfall. 47 00:01:48,233 --> 00:01:52,633 I mean, the diamonds are truly dripping off of this. 48 00:01:52,633 --> 00:01:54,700 There's a little over two ounces of platinum 49 00:01:54,700 --> 00:01:55,900 in the whole piece. 50 00:01:55,900 --> 00:01:57,100 Then there's about four carats 51 00:01:57,100 --> 00:01:59,400 in baguettes. 52 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,200 The marquise-shaped stones, they're all different sizes. 53 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,966 One of them is as large as a carat. 54 00:02:03,966 --> 00:02:05,300 You add them all up, 55 00:02:05,300 --> 00:02:08,833 there's nine carats in the marquise diamonds. 56 00:02:08,833 --> 00:02:10,233 So all together, 57 00:02:10,233 --> 00:02:11,600 we got 13 carats of goods. 58 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,433 Any thoughts on the piece? 59 00:02:13,433 --> 00:02:14,733 Beautiful. 60 00:02:14,733 --> 00:02:16,066 Beautiful, I like that. 61 00:02:16,066 --> 00:02:17,400 So you really don't need to know what it's worth. 62 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,066 I would like to know. (laughs) 63 00:02:19,066 --> 00:02:20,433 Thought I'd get out of here. 64 00:02:20,433 --> 00:02:25,700 So I would say at auction, $15,000 to $20,000 65 00:02:25,700 --> 00:02:26,866 Great. 66 00:02:26,866 --> 00:02:28,133 It's not bad, right? Not bad. 67 00:02:28,133 --> 00:02:30,366 Yeah. For a bunch of rocks. 68 00:02:30,366 --> 00:02:32,600 (laughing) 69 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,700 That's great, I love it. 70 00:02:34,700 --> 00:02:36,100 Good backdrop, huh? 71 00:02:36,100 --> 00:02:37,566 Yeah. 72 00:02:37,566 --> 00:02:41,033 This, I believe, is a foghorn from the 18th century 73 00:02:41,033 --> 00:02:43,533 that my dad found in the bay 74 00:02:43,533 --> 00:02:46,900 when he was scuba diving in about 1960. 75 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:48,200 MAN: So it might be useful today. 76 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,200 It might be very useful today, 77 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,466 since it's rainy and foggy, yeah. 78 00:02:51,466 --> 00:02:52,866 (blowing, no sound coming out) 79 00:02:52,866 --> 00:02:54,566 No. 80 00:02:54,566 --> 00:02:56,833 He could do it, though, so you just need more wind. 81 00:02:56,833 --> 00:03:01,233 ♪ ♪ 82 00:03:05,233 --> 00:03:09,600 (water flowing, birds chirping) 83 00:03:10,933 --> 00:03:14,466 PEÑA: Rosecliff Mansion was made to have a ball-- literally. 84 00:03:14,466 --> 00:03:16,900 This 3,200-square-foot ballroom is the largest 85 00:03:16,900 --> 00:03:20,500 of all the surviving Newport mansions. 86 00:03:20,500 --> 00:03:21,700 I think it's a tiara. 87 00:03:21,700 --> 00:03:23,066 Oh, will you put it on? 88 00:03:23,066 --> 00:03:24,966 Can I see it on you? Yeah, well, I... 89 00:03:24,966 --> 00:03:26,166 You don't have enough hair. 90 00:03:26,166 --> 00:03:27,166 Oh, you have to have a bun? 91 00:03:27,166 --> 00:03:28,533 (laughing) 92 00:03:30,766 --> 00:03:34,466 WOMAN: I collected things, always, from when I was very young, 93 00:03:34,466 --> 00:03:37,466 because my mother was, collected things. 94 00:03:37,466 --> 00:03:40,500 And then I started to get older, 95 00:03:40,500 --> 00:03:42,633 and I fell in love with Modernism. 96 00:03:42,633 --> 00:03:44,833 I don't think Claire Falkenstein 97 00:03:44,833 --> 00:03:48,933 is that well-known to a large jewelry audience 98 00:03:48,933 --> 00:03:52,333 because she really was known for sculpture. 99 00:03:52,333 --> 00:03:56,000 The most famous sculpture she made was for Guggenheim, 100 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,500 "The New Gates of Paradise" in Venice. Yes, yeah. 101 00:03:58,500 --> 00:04:01,833 And did not use expensive materials, 102 00:04:01,833 --> 00:04:03,766 and that was really because she didn't, 103 00:04:03,766 --> 00:04:07,033 couldn't in the beginning, but then she continued to use 104 00:04:07,033 --> 00:04:11,933 wood and glass and iron and silver 105 00:04:11,933 --> 00:04:14,033 and very rarely used gold. 106 00:04:14,033 --> 00:04:18,366 And what you brought are two quite rare pieces. 107 00:04:18,366 --> 00:04:22,200 I have actually never seen a pair of her earrings. 108 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,800 I mean, it was not a big body of work. 109 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,433 But this piece, 110 00:04:27,433 --> 00:04:29,666 this is very unusual. 111 00:04:29,666 --> 00:04:33,266 I imagine it was worn as a head ornament, 112 00:04:33,266 --> 00:04:35,166 probably in a bun, 113 00:04:35,166 --> 00:04:36,866 and then you'd put these in the back 114 00:04:36,866 --> 00:04:38,366 and they would dangle. 115 00:04:38,366 --> 00:04:42,866 There's brass, there's iron, there's silver and gold, 116 00:04:42,866 --> 00:04:44,200 and also, it's signed. 117 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,600 Her full name, Claire Falkenstein. 118 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:47,933 Where did you get this? 119 00:04:47,933 --> 00:04:49,333 The hair ornament 120 00:04:49,333 --> 00:04:51,700 I bought online. 121 00:04:51,700 --> 00:04:54,266 It came from Paris. 122 00:04:54,266 --> 00:04:56,733 It was about 20 years ago. 123 00:04:56,733 --> 00:04:59,133 It was at an auction thing, and it didn't sell, 124 00:04:59,133 --> 00:05:01,833 and in those days, you could contact the owner. 125 00:05:01,833 --> 00:05:03,000 And buy it. 126 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,433 Which I did, and she said, "Nobody bid on it. 127 00:05:06,433 --> 00:05:10,000 If you want, you can have it for $50." 128 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,233 The earrings I bought when we were living in Milwaukee 129 00:05:14,233 --> 00:05:16,266 at a church thrift shop. 130 00:05:16,266 --> 00:05:20,333 I paid probably like two, three dollars. 131 00:05:20,333 --> 00:05:23,633 I'm thinking this was made in the '60s. 132 00:05:23,633 --> 00:05:26,833 That could be in the '60s... But that's, that's what I'm thinking. 133 00:05:26,833 --> 00:05:28,966 And the earrings were probably late '40s. Yeah. 134 00:05:28,966 --> 00:05:31,133 I am hard-pressed to put a value. 135 00:05:31,133 --> 00:05:35,300 It's not for everyone, it's not that wearable, 136 00:05:35,300 --> 00:05:38,633 but if you want to be avant-garde and cool, 137 00:05:38,633 --> 00:05:39,966 hey, that says it all. 138 00:05:39,966 --> 00:05:41,900 On this head ornament, 139 00:05:41,900 --> 00:05:45,500 I would put a value, at auction, 140 00:05:45,500 --> 00:05:46,933 $4,000 to $6,000. 141 00:05:46,933 --> 00:05:50,100 And I would say as an insurance value, 142 00:05:50,100 --> 00:05:55,000 probably in the $15,000 range, at least. 143 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,533 And the earrings I would also put up there, 144 00:05:57,533 --> 00:06:01,400 maybe $4,000 to $5,000 as an auction price, 145 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:02,900 and a replacement, 146 00:06:02,900 --> 00:06:05,166 I'd have to say $10,000, $12,000. 147 00:06:05,166 --> 00:06:07,466 I think people will all of a sudden say, 148 00:06:07,466 --> 00:06:10,400 "Claire Falkenstein-- who was she?" 149 00:06:17,366 --> 00:06:19,333 WOMAN: I brought a Royal typewriter 150 00:06:19,333 --> 00:06:21,666 that was presented to my grandfather, 151 00:06:21,666 --> 00:06:24,933 and he worked at Royal for many years. 152 00:06:24,933 --> 00:06:27,366 For his ten-year anniversary as vice president of sales, 153 00:06:27,366 --> 00:06:29,466 he was presented this typewriter 154 00:06:29,466 --> 00:06:31,900 by his staff, 155 00:06:31,900 --> 00:06:34,700 and all the top salespeople 156 00:06:34,700 --> 00:06:37,733 were able to sign it, and then get it-- 157 00:06:37,733 --> 00:06:39,766 and so it was engraved at Cartier. 158 00:06:39,766 --> 00:06:41,633 And it's gold. (chuckles) 159 00:06:41,633 --> 00:06:44,166 And my dad also worked at Royal, 160 00:06:44,166 --> 00:06:47,766 and so it went from my grandfather to my father to me. 161 00:06:47,766 --> 00:06:50,533 And they do refer to this as the Gold Royal. Right. 162 00:06:50,533 --> 00:06:53,066 So Royal Typewriter Company was founded in 1904, 163 00:06:53,066 --> 00:06:54,966 but it wasn't until the 1930s, 164 00:06:54,966 --> 00:06:57,300 when your grandfather was in charge of national sales, 165 00:06:57,300 --> 00:06:58,733 that they really started to take off. 166 00:06:58,733 --> 00:07:00,133 Right, right. 167 00:07:00,133 --> 00:07:01,700 Which, as a result, led him to be the top salesman, 168 00:07:01,700 --> 00:07:03,133 and then eventually the president of the company. 169 00:07:03,133 --> 00:07:06,366 Right, and he actually only had an eighth-grade education 170 00:07:06,366 --> 00:07:08,500 and became president of a Fortune 500 company. 171 00:07:08,500 --> 00:07:09,566 Right. 172 00:07:09,566 --> 00:07:13,033 There's 1,064 names inscribed in this. 173 00:07:13,033 --> 00:07:14,133 Oh, wow. And they're inscribed 174 00:07:14,133 --> 00:07:15,933 by a fellow named Warner MacDonald 175 00:07:15,933 --> 00:07:17,233 by hand, individually. 176 00:07:17,233 --> 00:07:21,066 The typewriter itself has 2,257 different parts. 177 00:07:21,066 --> 00:07:22,800 What Royal did is, 178 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,300 they then took a completed typewriter, 179 00:07:24,300 --> 00:07:26,366 took it to Cartier... Yes, okay. 180 00:07:26,366 --> 00:07:28,733 And every exposed piece, large and small, 181 00:07:28,733 --> 00:07:31,066 was plated in 24-karat gold. 182 00:07:31,066 --> 00:07:34,433 That was in 1939 at a cost of $5,000. 183 00:07:34,433 --> 00:07:35,666 When I asked some of the appraisers 184 00:07:35,666 --> 00:07:37,100 at the jewelry table... Uh-huh. 185 00:07:37,100 --> 00:07:38,433 "What would you think it would cost 186 00:07:38,433 --> 00:07:40,233 to have something like this commissioned today?", 187 00:07:40,233 --> 00:07:42,733 they couldn't even put a number on it, barely. 188 00:07:42,733 --> 00:07:44,700 Because of, the cost of labor was less back then. 189 00:07:44,700 --> 00:07:45,900 Right. 190 00:07:45,900 --> 00:07:47,866 And the cost of gold was less back then. 191 00:07:47,866 --> 00:07:51,000 $150,000, $200,000, perhaps, they speculated. 192 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,266 It was exhibited 193 00:07:52,266 --> 00:07:54,166 in the 1939 New York World's Fair. Okay. 194 00:07:54,166 --> 00:07:56,333 Then it went on tour all around the U.S. 195 00:07:56,333 --> 00:07:59,100 at the offices of Royal sales agents. 196 00:07:59,100 --> 00:08:01,433 And it was presented in 1940 to your grandfather. 197 00:08:01,433 --> 00:08:02,666 Half a dozen appraisers 198 00:08:02,666 --> 00:08:04,166 were all involved in this with me... Uh-huh. 199 00:08:04,166 --> 00:08:06,100 As we tried to talk about the different components to it. 200 00:08:06,100 --> 00:08:07,566 We would put a value, at auction, 201 00:08:07,566 --> 00:08:10,400 of $30,000 to $40,000. 202 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:11,800 Oh, my God. 203 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,266 (laughs) 204 00:08:13,266 --> 00:08:15,333 Awesome! 205 00:08:15,333 --> 00:08:18,166 That's amazing, wow-- I had no idea. 206 00:08:18,166 --> 00:08:20,933 It's been in my closet. (chuckles) 207 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,333 ♪ ♪ 208 00:08:28,333 --> 00:08:30,866 You have a Japanese form here... Right. 209 00:08:30,866 --> 00:08:33,700 That some clever Western person said, 210 00:08:33,700 --> 00:08:34,833 "What a nice idea, 211 00:08:34,833 --> 00:08:37,533 "I can turn this into an oil lamp... Right. 212 00:08:37,533 --> 00:08:39,566 and we'll add this little bit." 213 00:08:39,566 --> 00:08:41,633 And they actually made all of this in the U.S. 214 00:08:41,633 --> 00:08:42,733 Okay. 215 00:08:42,733 --> 00:08:46,033 Here we go. 216 00:08:46,033 --> 00:08:47,266 This was the height of fashion 217 00:08:47,266 --> 00:08:48,900 in 1900. Right. 218 00:08:48,900 --> 00:08:50,400 And now not so much. 219 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,766 And now it's, like, not fashionable anywhere. 220 00:08:52,766 --> 00:08:53,966 (laughs) 221 00:08:53,966 --> 00:08:55,800 This is an object that came 222 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,833 from my great-grandmother's dining room table. 223 00:08:57,833 --> 00:08:59,366 We're not quite sure what it is. 224 00:08:59,366 --> 00:09:00,466 Might be a U.F.O. 225 00:09:00,466 --> 00:09:04,466 (laughing) 226 00:09:04,466 --> 00:09:07,900 This violin is labeled "Matthias Averill," 227 00:09:07,900 --> 00:09:10,166 but just when you opened the case, 228 00:09:10,166 --> 00:09:11,966 I could see that it reminded me 229 00:09:11,966 --> 00:09:14,900 of a, what's called a Schweitzer commercial violin. 230 00:09:14,900 --> 00:09:18,200 From around 1900 to 1910, 231 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,233 I would guess this one is. 232 00:09:20,233 --> 00:09:23,633 PEÑA: Architect Stanford White based the elegant Rosecliff Mansion 233 00:09:23,633 --> 00:09:27,666 on King Louis XIV's palace, the Grand Trianon of Versailles. 234 00:09:27,666 --> 00:09:29,600 The intention to create an opulent home 235 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,466 fit for so-called American royalty like the Oelrichs family 236 00:09:32,466 --> 00:09:35,466 was abundantly clear. 237 00:09:35,466 --> 00:09:37,100 This is a letter from Jackie Kennedy 238 00:09:37,100 --> 00:09:40,566 that was sent to the Men's Democratic League of Newport, 239 00:09:40,566 --> 00:09:42,933 because she was in Newport, 240 00:09:42,933 --> 00:09:44,666 and had, unfortunately, 241 00:09:44,666 --> 00:09:47,300 a stillborn child at Newport Hospital, 242 00:09:47,300 --> 00:09:48,766 and the Men's Democratic League 243 00:09:48,766 --> 00:09:50,700 sent her a bouquet of flowers. 244 00:09:50,700 --> 00:09:52,500 And this is the thank-you note 245 00:09:52,500 --> 00:09:53,933 that she sent to them. 246 00:09:53,933 --> 00:09:55,433 And my grandfather, at the time, 247 00:09:55,433 --> 00:09:58,833 was the president of the Men's Democratic League, 248 00:09:58,833 --> 00:10:00,366 and this was 1956. 249 00:10:00,366 --> 00:10:02,766 So he kept the letter, gave it to my mother, 250 00:10:02,766 --> 00:10:04,400 and said, "Keep this letter, 251 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,866 "because he's going to be president, 252 00:10:05,866 --> 00:10:07,500 and she'll be first lady." 253 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:09,133 Wow. And it came true. 254 00:10:09,133 --> 00:10:10,600 Wow, very prescient. 255 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,100 Yeah. You know, it's interesting, 256 00:10:13,100 --> 00:10:14,966 because there are a lot of ties 257 00:10:14,966 --> 00:10:17,100 from Newport and the Kennedys. 258 00:10:17,100 --> 00:10:20,066 They were married here, 1953. Mm-hmm. 259 00:10:20,066 --> 00:10:21,633 Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy, actually, 260 00:10:21,633 --> 00:10:23,066 Hammersmith Farm, 261 00:10:23,066 --> 00:10:24,900 so there's a very strong Newport connection. Yeah. 262 00:10:24,900 --> 00:10:26,300 It's just a lovely little note, 263 00:10:26,300 --> 00:10:27,833 basically, "Thank you for the roses." 264 00:10:27,833 --> 00:10:31,633 On the back here, it is nicely signed. 265 00:10:31,633 --> 00:10:33,633 It said, "It meant a great deal to me," so... 266 00:10:33,633 --> 00:10:36,200 Elegant note from a very elegant lady. 267 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,533 At auction, I would expect this to bring 268 00:10:38,533 --> 00:10:40,366 around $1,500. 269 00:10:40,366 --> 00:10:41,500 Wow. 270 00:10:41,500 --> 00:10:42,700 Very good. 271 00:10:46,500 --> 00:10:49,100 WOMAN: They came down from my mother-in-law. 272 00:10:49,100 --> 00:10:50,600 We think they may be 273 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,033 Benjamin Greenleaf, 274 00:10:52,033 --> 00:10:53,733 but I'm not sure of that. 275 00:10:53,733 --> 00:10:58,400 My mother-in-law was given to hyperbole. 276 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,300 Ah. 277 00:11:00,300 --> 00:11:02,300 And these came down from the family, 278 00:11:02,300 --> 00:11:04,400 and each woman brought it down. 279 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,100 Since you've had them, have you done anything to them? 280 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:09,233 The only thing we did was frame them. 281 00:11:09,233 --> 00:11:11,633 And so these are newer frames, then? 282 00:11:11,633 --> 00:11:13,600 Yes. And what did 283 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,266 the original frame look like? 284 00:11:15,266 --> 00:11:18,233 Well, the frames that my mother-in-law had, um, 285 00:11:18,233 --> 00:11:22,366 were really the kind that you would put on a diploma, 286 00:11:22,366 --> 00:11:24,666 those little black ones? Uh-huh, okay. 287 00:11:24,666 --> 00:11:26,100 And they were falling apart. 288 00:11:26,100 --> 00:11:30,533 Let's start with dispelling any family hyperbole, 289 00:11:30,533 --> 00:11:33,133 any apocryphal story. 290 00:11:33,133 --> 00:11:35,733 These paintings are definitely by Benjamin Greenleaf. 291 00:11:35,733 --> 00:11:38,666 Greenleaf, as you may know, 292 00:11:38,666 --> 00:11:42,933 was born in Hull, Massachusetts, in 1769, 293 00:11:42,933 --> 00:11:44,533 and he really started painting 294 00:11:44,533 --> 00:11:46,833 when he was in his early 30s. 295 00:11:46,833 --> 00:11:48,800 Before that, we don't know what he did. 296 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,200 He's one of those artists that we don't know much about. 297 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:53,433 But we do know 298 00:11:53,433 --> 00:11:56,000 when he was born and when he was active. 299 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,433 And he was active for about a 15-year period 300 00:11:59,433 --> 00:12:02,100 between 1803 and 1818. 301 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:04,166 He was an itinerant painter, 302 00:12:04,166 --> 00:12:05,433 going from town to town, 303 00:12:05,433 --> 00:12:07,100 staying there until... 304 00:12:07,100 --> 00:12:08,700 he had either worn his welcome out 305 00:12:08,700 --> 00:12:10,833 or he's painted enough commissions that he was done. 306 00:12:10,833 --> 00:12:13,500 These two portraits-- 307 00:12:13,500 --> 00:12:15,766 this painting is very typical of Greenleaf's work, 308 00:12:15,766 --> 00:12:17,766 because it's painted on glass. 309 00:12:17,766 --> 00:12:20,166 In other words, it's a reverse painting. 310 00:12:20,166 --> 00:12:22,466 Greenleaf took a piece of glass 311 00:12:22,466 --> 00:12:24,766 and painted the portrait on the back of the glass, 312 00:12:24,766 --> 00:12:26,700 and they're very fragile. 313 00:12:26,700 --> 00:12:28,366 The gentleman, 314 00:12:28,366 --> 00:12:31,000 who's almost certainly by-- also by Greenleaf, 315 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,500 but it's on a panel. 316 00:12:32,500 --> 00:12:34,033 It's on a piece of wood. 317 00:12:34,033 --> 00:12:36,533 One of the things that Greenleaf was known for 318 00:12:36,533 --> 00:12:38,566 was painting these profile portraits 319 00:12:38,566 --> 00:12:40,400 and virtually filling the painting 320 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,500 with the portrait. 321 00:12:42,500 --> 00:12:44,933 And, in fact, this one, 322 00:12:44,933 --> 00:12:48,666 I wonder when it was reframed, if, there, her bonnet 323 00:12:48,666 --> 00:12:51,266 really goes underneath the rabbet of the frame. 324 00:12:51,266 --> 00:12:52,800 Oh, yeah-- oh, interesting. 325 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,466 Here's the potential bad news. 326 00:12:55,466 --> 00:12:57,900 Greenleafs, every one that I've seen, 327 00:12:57,900 --> 00:13:00,400 they're in those little crummy black frames, 328 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,800 so you might have thrown away the original frames. 329 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,200 That hurts the package, 330 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,300 because it's not the original frame. 331 00:13:09,300 --> 00:13:12,600 In spite of the fact that the portraits are great, 332 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,633 if they'd been in their original frame, 333 00:13:14,633 --> 00:13:15,966 they'd be even greater. 334 00:13:15,966 --> 00:13:18,666 Greenleaf's work is really pretty rare. 335 00:13:18,666 --> 00:13:22,700 There are less than 60 of these portraits 336 00:13:22,700 --> 00:13:24,633 known to have been done by him, 337 00:13:24,633 --> 00:13:26,633 probably because a lot of them broke. 338 00:13:26,633 --> 00:13:30,200 In this condition, in these new frames, 339 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,833 a good pre-sale auction estimate 340 00:13:33,833 --> 00:13:35,433 would be $5,000 to $7,000. 341 00:13:35,433 --> 00:13:36,466 Wow, very good. 342 00:13:36,466 --> 00:13:37,666 Now, if they were 343 00:13:37,666 --> 00:13:40,900 in their original frames, you might add 344 00:13:40,900 --> 00:13:42,200 a few more thousand, 345 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,966 and it might have been worth $8,000 to $10,000. 346 00:13:44,966 --> 00:13:46,466 I should also point out 347 00:13:46,466 --> 00:13:49,300 that Greenleaf did various sizes of these, 348 00:13:49,300 --> 00:13:52,666 so the bigger that they are, the more expensive they are, 349 00:13:52,666 --> 00:13:55,400 because they're more fragile. 350 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,200 PEÑA: Rosecliff has seen many notable gatherings over the years. 351 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,100 A circus tent was erected on the grounds in 1901 352 00:14:02,100 --> 00:14:04,666 for the tenth birthday of Tessie Oelrichs' son. 353 00:14:04,666 --> 00:14:07,933 For her Bal Blanc, or white party, in 1904, 354 00:14:07,933 --> 00:14:10,666 Tessie had full-size silhouettes of sailing ships 355 00:14:10,666 --> 00:14:12,766 anchored in the water off the back lawn 356 00:14:12,766 --> 00:14:15,533 to give the illusion of a grand white fleet. 357 00:14:17,533 --> 00:14:20,133 WOMAN: Years ago, my husband and I 358 00:14:20,133 --> 00:14:23,800 went to the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston for an exhibition, 359 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,400 and on the way home, 360 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,233 we passed this little antique shop, 361 00:14:28,233 --> 00:14:29,633 and I wanted to stop. 362 00:14:29,633 --> 00:14:31,400 He didn't, but we stopped-- I won. 363 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,133 (chuckling) 364 00:14:33,133 --> 00:14:35,600 Nothing of the, in the shop was of value, 365 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,366 but this was hanging on the railing outside. 366 00:14:39,366 --> 00:14:42,100 And I said to my husband, "I absolutely love that rug. 367 00:14:42,100 --> 00:14:44,200 I've got to find out how much it is." 368 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:45,866 So I went in to see the gentleman, 369 00:14:45,866 --> 00:14:48,433 and he said, "The rug's $100." 370 00:14:48,433 --> 00:14:49,466 And I said, "Are you sure?" 371 00:14:49,466 --> 00:14:50,766 He said, "Yes, it's a good rug." 372 00:14:50,766 --> 00:14:51,800 I wanted the rug. 373 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,800 Early 20th century, 374 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,533 there was a trend of collecting Oriental rugs 375 00:14:56,533 --> 00:14:57,866 in the United States. 376 00:14:57,866 --> 00:15:00,666 People collected paintings, tapestries, furniture, 377 00:15:00,666 --> 00:15:02,166 also collected great rugs. 378 00:15:02,166 --> 00:15:04,866 And as a result, other people thought, 379 00:15:04,866 --> 00:15:07,900 "Hmm, we have this tradition of American hooked rugs. 380 00:15:07,900 --> 00:15:10,700 We could use those designs and create..." 381 00:15:10,700 --> 00:15:13,233 Basically, not really reproductions, 382 00:15:13,233 --> 00:15:15,933 but our own variations on what Eastern rugs looked like. 383 00:15:15,933 --> 00:15:17,066 Mm-hmm. 384 00:15:17,066 --> 00:15:18,533 They were really originally sold as kits. 385 00:15:18,533 --> 00:15:21,666 Circa 1920, you'd buy the burlap backing 386 00:15:21,666 --> 00:15:24,000 and it would have a pattern stenciled on it, 387 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,000 but then you'd get your own wools 388 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,533 and you'd get your own fabrics, 389 00:15:26,533 --> 00:15:27,800 and do the hooking yourself. 390 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,866 And so whoever did this went out 391 00:15:29,866 --> 00:15:32,433 and very specifically bought the proper yarns. 392 00:15:32,433 --> 00:15:33,700 I think, 393 00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:35,666 just because the color's so consistent throughout, 394 00:15:35,666 --> 00:15:37,866 it's obviously not scrap material 395 00:15:37,866 --> 00:15:39,566 that's been used. Yeah. 396 00:15:39,566 --> 00:15:42,700 But you can see a few a spots where they have filled in. 397 00:15:42,700 --> 00:15:45,000 There's a deeper red through here. 398 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,266 I can see it, yeah. 399 00:15:46,266 --> 00:15:47,566 There's a purple, 400 00:15:47,566 --> 00:15:50,066 and I originally thought, "Hmm, some restoration." 401 00:15:50,066 --> 00:15:51,633 But when you look at the back of the rug 402 00:15:51,633 --> 00:15:52,966 and really look at the consistency 403 00:15:52,966 --> 00:15:54,333 of the yarn itself... 404 00:15:54,333 --> 00:15:57,633 They ran out of this red, so they transitioned to the other? 405 00:15:57,633 --> 00:15:59,166 Absolutely, absolutely. Uh-huh. 406 00:15:59,166 --> 00:16:01,433 And that's a really nice aspect of things, 407 00:16:01,433 --> 00:16:02,700 because hooked rugs really come out 408 00:16:02,700 --> 00:16:04,233 of a Folk Art tradition, 409 00:16:04,233 --> 00:16:05,966 so it's nice to have those kind of homey touches 410 00:16:05,966 --> 00:16:08,066 that are coming into the rug itself. 411 00:16:08,066 --> 00:16:10,166 This example's in extremely good condition, 412 00:16:10,166 --> 00:16:13,100 with very, very good color retention. 413 00:16:13,100 --> 00:16:17,033 I think it would have a retail price of $8,000. 414 00:16:18,233 --> 00:16:19,666 $8,000? 415 00:16:19,666 --> 00:16:22,566 $8,000. Oh, my goodness. 416 00:16:22,566 --> 00:16:25,266 That... that is remarkable, 417 00:16:25,266 --> 00:16:28,433 and certainly far beyond what I've ever expected. 418 00:16:28,433 --> 00:16:31,900 I have loved this for the years that I've had it, 419 00:16:31,900 --> 00:16:35,700 and, actually, I tried to give it to one of my girls, 420 00:16:35,700 --> 00:16:37,233 and she said no, 421 00:16:37,233 --> 00:16:38,566 and I bet she regrets it right now! 422 00:16:38,566 --> 00:16:40,133 (laughing) 423 00:16:41,733 --> 00:16:43,333 MAN: Well, I got it from my ex-mother-in-law, 424 00:16:43,333 --> 00:16:45,333 who grew up in Cooperstown, New York. 425 00:16:45,333 --> 00:16:46,666 APPRAISER: Right. 426 00:16:46,666 --> 00:16:48,200 And they happened to go to this event, 427 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,066 which was the only exhibition event 428 00:16:50,066 --> 00:16:52,200 held by Major League Baseball at the time, 429 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:53,533 called "Cavalcade of Baseball." 430 00:16:53,533 --> 00:16:54,533 Right. 431 00:16:54,533 --> 00:16:55,900 And it was held at Doubleday Field. 432 00:16:55,900 --> 00:16:57,733 These tickets are really rare, 433 00:16:57,733 --> 00:17:00,333 and they sell anywhere between $500 and $800. 434 00:17:00,333 --> 00:17:02,500 This is like a little pencil box 435 00:17:02,500 --> 00:17:04,600 or a dresser box. Uh-huh. 436 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,566 And it's probably German. 437 00:17:06,566 --> 00:17:08,666 German! European. 438 00:17:08,666 --> 00:17:10,433 We made things like this in America. 439 00:17:10,433 --> 00:17:11,500 Yeah. 440 00:17:11,500 --> 00:17:12,833 But the way it's painted 441 00:17:12,833 --> 00:17:14,433 and the decoration and the wood... Yes. 442 00:17:14,433 --> 00:17:17,166 That tells you that it's probably European. 443 00:17:17,166 --> 00:17:20,300 You're looking at about $350. 444 00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:21,766 I like to yard-sale, 445 00:17:21,766 --> 00:17:23,600 but I get a lot of grief from my sons all the time, 446 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,766 so I've been trying to, like, not do it as often, 447 00:17:26,766 --> 00:17:28,533 but I saw a sign, and I stopped, 448 00:17:28,533 --> 00:17:31,233 and I saw these, and I liked them. Okay. 449 00:17:31,233 --> 00:17:32,566 And the price was right. 450 00:17:32,566 --> 00:17:34,166 Can I ask what you paid for them? 451 00:17:34,166 --> 00:17:35,633 For all of them, $25. 452 00:17:35,633 --> 00:17:36,733 How long ago? 453 00:17:36,733 --> 00:17:37,800 Just a few months ago. 454 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:38,800 Really? 455 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,300 When you came in, 456 00:17:40,300 --> 00:17:42,766 you had these all in a folder. 457 00:17:42,766 --> 00:17:44,033 That I bought last night. 458 00:17:44,033 --> 00:17:46,166 That you bought last night. 459 00:17:46,166 --> 00:17:48,366 Probably for almost the same amount. 460 00:17:48,366 --> 00:17:50,633 Yeah, yeah, it was $20 for the folder, yeah. 461 00:17:50,633 --> 00:17:51,866 And the top one 462 00:17:51,866 --> 00:17:54,033 was this one up here. Yes. 463 00:17:54,033 --> 00:17:55,400 I really liked it, 464 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,233 and I'm familiar with the artist, 465 00:17:57,233 --> 00:18:00,433 but I wasn't sure if it was real or not. 466 00:18:00,433 --> 00:18:02,666 And it's signed "Edward Hopper" underneath. 467 00:18:02,666 --> 00:18:04,466 Yes. So then, 468 00:18:04,466 --> 00:18:07,500 I flipped the page in the book, 469 00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:08,633 and this piece showed up. 470 00:18:08,633 --> 00:18:10,600 This is by Kenneth Hayes Miller, 471 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:11,900 who is, was, in his day, 472 00:18:11,900 --> 00:18:14,800 a very important artist and instructor, 473 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,400 but isn't somebody who's really withstood the test of time. 474 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,066 But what's interesting about seeing these two together 475 00:18:21,066 --> 00:18:23,933 is, the Hopper was in a portfolio 476 00:18:23,933 --> 00:18:27,400 called "Six American Etchings: The 'New Republic' Portfolio." 477 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,966 That was published in 1924. 478 00:18:29,966 --> 00:18:32,766 This was also in that same portfolio. 479 00:18:32,766 --> 00:18:33,933 Oh. 480 00:18:33,933 --> 00:18:36,733 So just by having found the two together, 481 00:18:36,733 --> 00:18:39,100 that strengthens the provenance even more. 482 00:18:39,100 --> 00:18:40,233 Oh, okay. 483 00:18:40,233 --> 00:18:43,200 To tell me, "This looks very good." 484 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,666 Also in that same portfolio of six prints 485 00:18:45,666 --> 00:18:48,433 was a John Marin print, 486 00:18:48,433 --> 00:18:50,600 an Ernest Haskell print... Ah! 487 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,000 And a Peggy Bacon print. 488 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,200 And I left one behind. 489 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,400 And that was by John Sloan? I don't know. 490 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,500 Because I didn't have enough money-- 491 00:18:59,500 --> 00:19:02,366 I only had, like, $25, so I left one behind. Oh, no! 492 00:19:02,366 --> 00:19:03,766 (laughing) 493 00:19:03,766 --> 00:19:06,033 And I just took the one that I didn't-- yeah. 494 00:19:06,033 --> 00:19:07,966 So that was probably a print by John Sloan 495 00:19:07,966 --> 00:19:09,300 called "The Bandits Cave." 496 00:19:09,300 --> 00:19:10,566 Okay. 497 00:19:10,566 --> 00:19:12,233 So the fact that you have all these together 498 00:19:12,233 --> 00:19:17,433 is wonderful proof that this is indeed 499 00:19:17,433 --> 00:19:18,700 what it purports to be. 500 00:19:18,700 --> 00:19:20,266 The Hayes Miller, 501 00:19:20,266 --> 00:19:21,266 also pencil-signed, 502 00:19:21,266 --> 00:19:22,966 also an etching, lovely print, 503 00:19:22,966 --> 00:19:24,933 not in terrific condition. 504 00:19:24,933 --> 00:19:27,133 Realistically, were you to sell this at auction, 505 00:19:27,133 --> 00:19:28,866 you might expect it to bring 506 00:19:28,866 --> 00:19:30,900 about $80 to $120. Okay. 507 00:19:30,900 --> 00:19:32,366 Not a tremendous amount. Yeah. 508 00:19:32,366 --> 00:19:34,366 The Ernest Haskell, 509 00:19:34,366 --> 00:19:35,633 also signed, 510 00:19:35,633 --> 00:19:37,700 called "Sentinels of North Creek," 511 00:19:37,700 --> 00:19:41,000 another lovely etching, but again, not very important. 512 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,466 $200, $300. 513 00:19:42,466 --> 00:19:44,133 Peggy Bacon, 514 00:19:44,133 --> 00:19:47,066 a fairly unusual female artist. 515 00:19:47,066 --> 00:19:48,933 This is a more important print. 516 00:19:48,933 --> 00:19:50,366 It's called "Promenade Deck." 517 00:19:50,366 --> 00:19:51,600 At auction currently, 518 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,100 you're probably looking about $500 to $700 for it. 519 00:19:54,100 --> 00:19:55,133 Okay. 520 00:19:55,133 --> 00:19:57,466 The John Marin is interesting. 521 00:19:57,466 --> 00:20:00,100 When the portfolio first came out, 522 00:20:00,100 --> 00:20:01,900 it included this John Marin print, 523 00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:05,033 which is called "Brooklyn Bridge Six Swaying." Okay. 524 00:20:05,033 --> 00:20:08,300 After just a few of the edition was published, 525 00:20:08,300 --> 00:20:10,066 he changed out that print 526 00:20:10,066 --> 00:20:13,166 for another print called "Downtown, The El." 527 00:20:13,166 --> 00:20:15,333 This is the more rare and desirable print. 528 00:20:15,333 --> 00:20:16,333 Oh. 529 00:20:16,333 --> 00:20:17,800 So this is a fantastic etching, 530 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,666 and it's in lovely condition. 531 00:20:19,666 --> 00:20:21,266 So at auction, for the John Marin, 532 00:20:21,266 --> 00:20:22,266 you're looking about 533 00:20:22,266 --> 00:20:24,566 $15,000 to $25,000. 534 00:20:26,700 --> 00:20:28,366 Oh, my God. 535 00:20:28,366 --> 00:20:30,200 Oh, my God! 536 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,866 I'm glad I didn't leave that one behind. 537 00:20:31,866 --> 00:20:34,133 (laughs) 538 00:20:34,133 --> 00:20:38,733 The Hopper is possibly one of his best-known prints. 539 00:20:38,733 --> 00:20:41,000 And at auction, you're looking 540 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,966 $30,000 to $50,000. 541 00:20:46,533 --> 00:20:48,200 Crazy. 542 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,366 Absolutely crazy. 543 00:20:50,366 --> 00:20:52,166 Are your kids going to give you grief after this? 544 00:20:52,166 --> 00:20:53,500 No, they better not. 545 00:20:53,500 --> 00:20:54,633 (both laugh) 546 00:20:54,633 --> 00:20:56,466 They better not. 547 00:20:56,466 --> 00:20:58,433 No, not at all, they better not. 548 00:21:00,533 --> 00:21:02,500 The one you left behind, the John Sloan, 549 00:21:02,500 --> 00:21:04,733 $500 to $700 at auction. 550 00:21:06,066 --> 00:21:06,933 PEÑA: This is part one 551 00:21:06,933 --> 00:21:08,100 PEÑA: And now it's time 552 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:10,166 for the "Roadshow" Feedback Booth. 553 00:21:10,166 --> 00:21:13,266 And these are two German wooden figurines. 554 00:21:13,266 --> 00:21:14,700 They're pretty crudely carved, 555 00:21:14,700 --> 00:21:16,700 so they were only worth five or ten bucks. 556 00:21:16,700 --> 00:21:18,566 So, play toys! 557 00:21:18,566 --> 00:21:19,966 (laughs) 558 00:21:19,966 --> 00:21:21,766 My wife won me tickets 559 00:21:21,766 --> 00:21:23,866 to the Antiques Roadshow for my birthday, 560 00:21:23,866 --> 00:21:25,633 and there's no one luckier than me. 561 00:21:25,633 --> 00:21:27,833 Everyone who brought something worth money's luckier than me, 562 00:21:27,833 --> 00:21:29,166 but, oh, well. 563 00:21:29,166 --> 00:21:31,600 Next time, we're going to have more fun and more money. 564 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,300 And I brought a carriage clock that, actually, 565 00:21:34,300 --> 00:21:37,100 the case is worth more than the clock itself. 566 00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:39,933 I brought the family heirloom medals. 567 00:21:39,933 --> 00:21:41,566 I found a lot about them, 568 00:21:41,566 --> 00:21:43,966 and the appraiser, I made his day, 569 00:21:43,966 --> 00:21:46,733 and my grouping was worth about $1,000, 570 00:21:46,733 --> 00:21:48,500 so I am very pleased. 571 00:21:48,500 --> 00:21:50,633 And I found out that my photographs 572 00:21:50,633 --> 00:21:52,466 of Elvis Presley doing karate 573 00:21:52,466 --> 00:21:56,600 were worth about $225, so, not bad. 574 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,566 My family has told me for years and years 575 00:21:59,566 --> 00:22:02,733 that it was a print and it wasn't worth very much, 576 00:22:02,733 --> 00:22:05,466 but today, I came to the Antiques Roadshow, 577 00:22:05,466 --> 00:22:07,566 and I found out that it was a print 578 00:22:07,566 --> 00:22:09,000 and it wasn't worth very much. 579 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,566 $100. 580 00:22:10,566 --> 00:22:14,733 I've got this antique chicken boot scraper 581 00:22:14,733 --> 00:22:18,233 that my wife bought at a yard sale for $25 582 00:22:18,233 --> 00:22:21,533 and appraised it for $15, so I think we are rich. 583 00:22:21,533 --> 00:22:22,900 $1,500. 584 00:22:22,900 --> 00:22:24,800 $1,500, yeah. 585 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,133 PEÑA: Thanks for watching. 586 00:22:26,133 --> 00:22:27,766 Tune in again for another great episode 587 00:22:27,766 --> 00:22:29,666 of "Antiques Roadshow Recut."