WEBVTT 00:00.833 --> 00:04.200 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 00:04.200 --> 00:06.266 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% CORAL PEÑA: "Antiques Roadshow Recut" is highlighting 00:06.266 --> 00:09.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% "Roadshow's" first-ever outdoor event in Newport, Rhode Island. 00:09.000 --> 00:10.833 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% (laughs): Awesome! 00:10.833 --> 00:12.633 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% Crazy. 00:12.633 --> 00:14.333 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% Absolutely crazy. 00:14.333 --> 00:15.800 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% PEÑA: Stay tuned for part one 00:15.800 --> 00:18.233 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% of "Antiques Roadshow Recut: Rosecliff." 00:18.233 --> 00:21.533 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 00:36.766 --> 00:38.466 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% PEÑA: Rosecliff Mansion, the so-called summer cottage 00:38.466 --> 00:40.300 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% of heiress Theresa "Tessie" Oelrichs, 00:40.300 --> 00:42.533 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% was the perfect location for our "Roadshow" event 00:42.533 --> 00:44.366 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% back in 2017. 00:44.366 --> 00:45.833 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% Less than perfect? 00:45.833 --> 00:49.200 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% The weather conditions brought to Newport by Hurricane Jose. 00:49.200 --> 00:51.266 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% But the storm couldn't dampen the spirits 00:51.266 --> 00:53.333 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% of our guests and appraisers. 00:53.333 --> 00:56.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So imagine, you are invited to a party here. 00:56.400 --> 00:58.266 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% You're coming off the back porch, 00:58.266 --> 00:59.633 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% you're walking down to see the water. 00:59.633 --> 01:01.933 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% In a gown. In a gown. 01:01.933 --> 01:03.400 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% And you're wearing this. 01:03.400 --> 01:04.633 align:left position:72.5% line:83% size:17.5% Tell us what you brought in. 01:04.633 --> 01:06.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The pin belonged to my grandmother, 01:06.633 --> 01:08.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% who lived in Chicago. 01:08.000 --> 01:11.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I don't know where she bought it. 01:11.133 --> 01:12.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I don't know what it's worth. 01:12.800 --> 01:14.233 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% And never had it appraised, did you? 01:14.233 --> 01:15.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Never had it appraised. 01:15.700 --> 01:17.066 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% We love people like you 01:17.066 --> 01:18.266 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% when you come in here with that. 01:18.266 --> 01:19.966 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% Lack of information. 01:19.966 --> 01:21.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Lack of information, solid lack. 01:21.800 --> 01:23.133 align:left position:75% line:5% size:15% Right. (laughs) 01:23.133 --> 01:25.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% You see, I'm just standing here, and it's moving. 01:25.800 --> 01:27.666 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% In the wind. Is that fantastic? 01:27.666 --> 01:28.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It is lovely. 01:28.600 --> 01:29.666 align:left position:65% line:83% size:25% Imagine if you were dancing 01:29.666 --> 01:33.100 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% in this house, you know, in 1940, 01:33.100 --> 01:35.633 align:left position:27.5% line:71% size:62.5% because that's about when I think this pin was made. Okay. 01:35.633 --> 01:37.166 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% I think the pin was added. 01:37.166 --> 01:39.433 align:left position:72.5% line:83% size:17.5% I think it was always made 01:39.433 --> 01:42.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% to have some type of a chain running through it, 01:42.700 --> 01:44.200 align:left position:62.5% line:83% size:27.5% and it hung as a necklace. 01:44.200 --> 01:46.300 align:left position:42.5% line:71% size:47.5% Not that it doesn't work as a pin. Okay. 01:46.300 --> 01:48.233 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% It reminds me of a waterfall. 01:48.233 --> 01:52.633 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% I mean, the diamonds are truly dripping off of this. 01:52.633 --> 01:54.700 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% There's a little over two ounces of platinum 01:54.700 --> 01:55.900 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% in the whole piece. 01:55.900 --> 01:57.100 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Then there's about four carats 01:57.100 --> 01:59.400 align:left position:57.5% line:89% size:32.5% in baguettes. 01:59.400 --> 02:02.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% The marquise-shaped stones, they're all different sizes. 02:02.200 --> 02:03.966 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% One of them is as large as a carat. 02:03.966 --> 02:05.300 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% You add them all up, 02:05.300 --> 02:08.833 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% there's nine carats in the marquise diamonds. 02:08.833 --> 02:10.233 align:left position:50% line:89% size:40% So all together, 02:10.233 --> 02:11.600 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% we got 13 carats of goods. 02:11.600 --> 02:13.433 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% Any thoughts on the piece? 02:13.433 --> 02:14.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Beautiful. 02:14.733 --> 02:16.066 align:left position:65% line:83% size:25% Beautiful, I like that. 02:16.066 --> 02:17.400 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% So you really don't need to know what it's worth. 02:17.400 --> 02:19.066 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% I would like to know. (laughs) 02:19.066 --> 02:20.433 align:left position:72.5% line:83% size:17.5% Thought I'd get out of here. 02:20.433 --> 02:25.700 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% So I would say at auction, $15,000 to $20,000 02:25.700 --> 02:26.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Great. 02:26.866 --> 02:28.133 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% It's not bad, right? Not bad. 02:28.133 --> 02:30.366 align:left position:77.5% line:5% size:12.5% Yeah. For a bunch of rocks. 02:30.366 --> 02:32.600 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% (laughing) 02:32.600 --> 02:34.700 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% That's great, I love it. 02:34.700 --> 02:36.100 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% Good backdrop, huh? 02:36.100 --> 02:37.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Yeah. 02:37.566 --> 02:41.033 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% This, I believe, is a foghorn from the 18th century 02:41.033 --> 02:43.533 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% that my dad found in the bay 02:43.533 --> 02:46.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% when he was scuba diving in about 1960. 02:46.900 --> 02:48.200 align:left position:80% line:83% size:10% MAN: So it might be useful today. 02:48.200 --> 02:50.200 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% It might be very useful today, 02:50.200 --> 02:51.466 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% since it's rainy and foggy, yeah. 02:51.466 --> 02:52.866 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% (blowing, no sound coming out) 02:52.866 --> 02:54.566 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% No. 02:54.566 --> 02:56.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% He could do it, though, so you just need more wind. 02:56.833 --> 03:01.233 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45% ♪ ♪ 03:05.233 --> 03:09.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% (water flowing, birds chirping) 03:10.933 --> 03:14.466 align:left position:42.5% line:77% size:47.5% PEÑA: Rosecliff Mansion was made to have a ball-- literally. 03:14.466 --> 03:16.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This 3,200-square-foot ballroom is the largest 03:16.900 --> 03:20.500 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% of all the surviving Newport mansions. 03:20.500 --> 03:21.700 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% I think it's a tiara. 03:21.700 --> 03:23.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Oh, will you put it on? 03:23.066 --> 03:24.966 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Can I see it on you? Yeah, well, I... 03:24.966 --> 03:26.166 align:left position:67.5% line:83% size:22.5% You don't have enough hair. 03:26.166 --> 03:27.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Oh, you have to have a bun? 03:27.166 --> 03:28.533 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% (laughing) 03:30.766 --> 03:34.466 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% WOMAN: I collected things, always, from when I was very young, 03:34.466 --> 03:37.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% because my mother was, collected things. 03:37.466 --> 03:40.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And then I started to get older, 03:40.500 --> 03:42.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and I fell in love with Modernism. 03:42.633 --> 03:44.833 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% I don't think Claire Falkenstein 03:44.833 --> 03:48.933 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% is that well-known to a large jewelry audience 03:48.933 --> 03:52.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because she really was known for sculpture. 03:52.333 --> 03:56.000 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% The most famous sculpture she made was for Guggenheim, 03:56.000 --> 03:58.500 align:left position:22.5% line:71% size:67.5% "The New Gates of Paradise" in Venice. Yes, yeah. 03:58.500 --> 04:01.833 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% And did not use expensive materials, 04:01.833 --> 04:03.766 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% and that was really because she didn't, 04:03.766 --> 04:07.033 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% couldn't in the beginning, but then she continued to use 04:07.033 --> 04:11.933 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% wood and glass and iron and silver 04:11.933 --> 04:14.033 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% and very rarely used gold. 04:14.033 --> 04:18.366 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% And what you brought are two quite rare pieces. 04:18.366 --> 04:22.200 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I have actually never seen a pair of her earrings. 04:22.200 --> 04:24.800 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% I mean, it was not a big body of work. 04:24.800 --> 04:27.433 align:left position:52.5% line:89% size:37.5% But this piece, 04:27.433 --> 04:29.666 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% this is very unusual. 04:29.666 --> 04:33.266 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% I imagine it was worn as a head ornament, 04:33.266 --> 04:35.166 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% probably in a bun, 04:35.166 --> 04:36.866 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and then you'd put these in the back 04:36.866 --> 04:38.366 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% and they would dangle. 04:38.366 --> 04:42.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% There's brass, there's iron, there's silver and gold, 04:42.866 --> 04:44.200 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% and also, it's signed. 04:44.200 --> 04:46.600 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% Her full name, Claire Falkenstein. 04:46.600 --> 04:47.933 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% Where did you get this? 04:47.933 --> 04:49.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The hair ornament 04:49.333 --> 04:51.700 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% I bought online. 04:51.700 --> 04:54.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It came from Paris. 04:54.266 --> 04:56.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It was about 20 years ago. 04:56.733 --> 04:59.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It was at an auction thing, and it didn't sell, 04:59.133 --> 05:01.833 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and in those days, you could contact the owner. 05:01.833 --> 05:03.000 align:left position:62.5% line:89% size:27.5% And buy it. 05:03.000 --> 05:06.433 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Which I did, and she said, "Nobody bid on it. 05:06.433 --> 05:10.000 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% If you want, you can have it for $50." 05:10.000 --> 05:14.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The earrings I bought when we were living in Milwaukee 05:14.233 --> 05:16.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% at a church thrift shop. 05:16.266 --> 05:20.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% I paid probably like two, three dollars. 05:20.333 --> 05:23.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I'm thinking this was made in the '60s. 05:23.633 --> 05:26.833 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% That could be in the '60s... But that's, that's what I'm thinking. 05:26.833 --> 05:28.966 align:left position:50% line:71% size:40% And the earrings were probably late '40s. Yeah. 05:28.966 --> 05:31.133 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% I am hard-pressed to put a value. 05:31.133 --> 05:35.300 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% It's not for everyone, it's not that wearable, 05:35.300 --> 05:38.633 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% but if you want to be avant-garde and cool, 05:38.633 --> 05:39.966 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% hey, that says it all. 05:39.966 --> 05:41.900 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% On this head ornament, 05:41.900 --> 05:45.500 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% I would put a value, at auction, 05:45.500 --> 05:46.933 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5% $4,000 to $6,000. 05:46.933 --> 05:50.100 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% And I would say as an insurance value, 05:50.100 --> 05:55.000 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% probably in the $15,000 range, at least. 05:55.000 --> 05:57.533 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% And the earrings I would also put up there, 05:57.533 --> 06:01.400 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% maybe $4,000 to $5,000 as an auction price, 06:01.400 --> 06:02.900 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% and a replacement, 06:02.900 --> 06:05.166 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% I'd have to say $10,000, $12,000. 06:05.166 --> 06:07.466 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% I think people will all of a sudden say, 06:07.466 --> 06:10.400 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% "Claire Falkenstein-- who was she?" 06:17.366 --> 06:19.333 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% WOMAN: I brought a Royal typewriter 06:19.333 --> 06:21.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% that was presented to my grandfather, 06:21.666 --> 06:24.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and he worked at Royal for many years. 06:24.933 --> 06:27.366 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% For his ten-year anniversary as vice president of sales, 06:27.366 --> 06:29.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% he was presented this typewriter 06:29.466 --> 06:31.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% by his staff, 06:31.900 --> 06:34.700 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% and all the top salespeople 06:34.700 --> 06:37.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% were able to sign it, and then get it-- 06:37.733 --> 06:39.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and so it was engraved at Cartier. 06:39.766 --> 06:41.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And it's gold. (chuckles) 06:41.633 --> 06:44.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And my dad also worked at Royal, 06:44.166 --> 06:47.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and so it went from my grandfather to my father to me. 06:47.766 --> 06:50.533 align:left position:27.5% line:71% size:62.5% And they do refer to this as the Gold Royal. Right. 06:50.533 --> 06:53.066 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So Royal Typewriter Company was founded in 1904, 06:53.066 --> 06:54.966 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% but it wasn't until the 1930s, 06:54.966 --> 06:57.300 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% when your grandfather was in charge of national sales, 06:57.300 --> 06:58.733 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% that they really started to take off. 06:58.733 --> 07:00.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Right, right. 07:00.133 --> 07:01.700 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% Which, as a result, led him to be the top salesman, 07:01.700 --> 07:03.133 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% and then eventually the president of the company. 07:03.133 --> 07:06.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Right, and he actually only had an eighth-grade education 07:06.366 --> 07:08.500 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and became president of a Fortune 500 company. 07:08.500 --> 07:09.566 align:left position:75% line:89% size:15% Right. 07:09.566 --> 07:13.033 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% There's 1,064 names inscribed in this. 07:13.033 --> 07:14.133 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Oh, wow. And they're inscribed 07:14.133 --> 07:15.933 align:left position:62.5% line:83% size:27.5% by a fellow named Warner MacDonald 07:15.933 --> 07:17.233 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% by hand, individually. 07:17.233 --> 07:21.066 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% The typewriter itself has 2,257 different parts. 07:21.066 --> 07:22.800 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% What Royal did is, 07:22.800 --> 07:24.300 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% they then took a completed typewriter, 07:24.300 --> 07:26.366 align:left position:37.5% line:77% size:52.5% took it to Cartier... Yes, okay. 07:26.366 --> 07:28.733 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And every exposed piece, large and small, 07:28.733 --> 07:31.066 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% was plated in 24-karat gold. 07:31.066 --> 07:34.433 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% That was in 1939 at a cost of $5,000. 07:34.433 --> 07:35.666 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% When I asked some of the appraisers 07:35.666 --> 07:37.100 align:left position:32.5% line:77% size:57.5% at the jewelry table... Uh-huh. 07:37.100 --> 07:38.433 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% "What would you think it would cost 07:38.433 --> 07:40.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% to have something like this commissioned today?", 07:40.233 --> 07:42.733 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% they couldn't even put a number on it, barely. 07:42.733 --> 07:44.700 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Because of, the cost of labor was less back then. 07:44.700 --> 07:45.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Right. 07:45.900 --> 07:47.866 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And the cost of gold was less back then. 07:47.866 --> 07:51.000 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% $150,000, $200,000, perhaps, they speculated. 07:51.000 --> 07:52.266 align:left position:50% line:89% size:40% It was exhibited 07:52.266 --> 07:54.166 align:left position:62.5% line:71% size:27.5% in the 1939 New York World's Fair. Okay. 07:54.166 --> 07:56.333 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% Then it went on tour all around the U.S. 07:56.333 --> 07:59.100 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% at the offices of Royal sales agents. 07:59.100 --> 08:01.433 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And it was presented in 1940 to your grandfather. 08:01.433 --> 08:02.666 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% Half a dozen appraisers 08:02.666 --> 08:04.166 align:left position:27.5% line:71% size:62.5% were all involved in this with me... Uh-huh. 08:04.166 --> 08:06.100 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% As we tried to talk about the different components to it. 08:06.100 --> 08:07.566 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% We would put a value, at auction, 08:07.566 --> 08:10.400 align:left position:65% line:83% size:25% of $30,000 to $40,000. 08:10.400 --> 08:11.800 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% Oh, my God. 08:11.800 --> 08:13.266 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% (laughs) 08:13.266 --> 08:15.333 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% Awesome! 08:15.333 --> 08:18.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% That's amazing, wow-- I had no idea. 08:18.166 --> 08:20.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% It's been in my closet. (chuckles) 08:25.200 --> 08:28.333 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 08:28.333 --> 08:30.866 align:left position:70% line:71% size:20% You have a Japanese form here... Right. 08:30.866 --> 08:33.700 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% That some clever Western person said, 08:33.700 --> 08:34.833 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% "What a nice idea, 08:34.833 --> 08:37.533 align:left position:50% line:71% size:40% "I can turn this into an oil lamp... Right. 08:37.533 --> 08:39.566 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% and we'll add this little bit." 08:39.566 --> 08:41.633 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% And they actually made all of this in the U.S. 08:41.633 --> 08:42.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Okay. 08:42.733 --> 08:46.033 align:left position:62.5% line:89% size:27.5% Here we go. 08:46.033 --> 08:47.266 align:left position:70% line:83% size:20% This was the height of fashion 08:47.266 --> 08:48.900 align:left position:70% line:77% size:20% in 1900. Right. 08:48.900 --> 08:50.400 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% And now not so much. 08:50.400 --> 08:52.766 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% And now it's, like, not fashionable anywhere. 08:52.766 --> 08:53.966 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% (laughs) 08:53.966 --> 08:55.800 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% This is an object that came 08:55.800 --> 08:57.833 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% from my great-grandmother's dining room table. 08:57.833 --> 08:59.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% We're not quite sure what it is. 08:59.366 --> 09:00.466 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% Might be a U.F.O. 09:00.466 --> 09:04.466 align:left position:37.5% line:71% size:52.5% (laughing) 09:04.466 --> 09:07.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% This violin is labeled "Matthias Averill," 09:07.900 --> 09:10.166 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% but just when you opened the case, 09:10.166 --> 09:11.966 align:left position:62.5% line:83% size:27.5% I could see that it reminded me 09:11.966 --> 09:14.900 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% of a, what's called a Schweitzer commercial violin. 09:14.900 --> 09:18.200 align:left position:17.5% line:71% size:72.5% From around 1900 to 1910, 09:18.200 --> 09:20.233 align:left position:17.5% line:71% size:72.5% I would guess this one is. 09:20.233 --> 09:23.633 align:left position:17.5% line:71% size:72.5%   PEÑA: Architect Stanford White based the elegant Rosecliff Mansion 09:23.633 --> 09:27.666 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% on King Louis XIV's palace, the Grand Trianon of Versailles. 09:27.666 --> 09:29.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% The intention to create an opulent home 09:29.600 --> 09:32.466 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% fit for so-called American royalty like the Oelrichs family 09:32.466 --> 09:35.466 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% was abundantly clear. 09:35.466 --> 09:37.100 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% This is a letter from Jackie Kennedy 09:37.100 --> 09:40.566 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% that was sent to the Men's Democratic League of Newport, 09:40.566 --> 09:42.933 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% because she was in Newport, 09:42.933 --> 09:44.666 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% and had, unfortunately, 09:44.666 --> 09:47.300 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% a stillborn child at Newport Hospital, 09:47.300 --> 09:48.766 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% and the Men's Democratic League 09:48.766 --> 09:50.700 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% sent her a bouquet of flowers. 09:50.700 --> 09:52.500 align:left position:62.5% line:83% size:27.5% And this is the thank-you note 09:52.500 --> 09:53.933 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% that she sent to them. 09:53.933 --> 09:55.433 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% And my grandfather, at the time, 09:55.433 --> 09:58.833 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% was the president of the Men's Democratic League, 09:58.833 --> 10:00.366 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% and this was 1956. 10:00.366 --> 10:02.766 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% So he kept the letter, gave it to my mother, 10:02.766 --> 10:04.400 align:left position:67.5% line:83% size:22.5% and said, "Keep this letter, 10:04.400 --> 10:05.866 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% "because he's going to be president, 10:05.866 --> 10:07.500 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% and she'll be first lady." 10:07.500 --> 10:09.133 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Wow. And it came true. 10:09.133 --> 10:10.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Wow, very prescient. 10:10.600 --> 10:13.100 align:left position:77.5% line:77% size:12.5% Yeah. You know, it's interesting, 10:13.100 --> 10:14.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% because there are a lot of ties 10:14.966 --> 10:17.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% from Newport and the Kennedys. 10:17.100 --> 10:20.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% They were married here, 1953. Mm-hmm. 10:20.066 --> 10:21.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy, actually, 10:21.633 --> 10:23.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Hammersmith Farm, 10:23.066 --> 10:24.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% so there's a very strong Newport connection. Yeah. 10:24.900 --> 10:26.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% It's just a lovely little note, 10:26.300 --> 10:27.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% basically, "Thank you for the roses." 10:27.833 --> 10:31.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% On the back here, it is nicely signed. 10:31.633 --> 10:33.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It said, "It meant a great deal to me," so... 10:33.633 --> 10:36.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Elegant note from a very elegant lady. 10:36.200 --> 10:38.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% At auction, I would expect this to bring 10:38.533 --> 10:40.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% around $1,500. 10:40.366 --> 10:41.500 align:left position:80% line:5% size:10% Wow. 10:41.500 --> 10:42.700 align:left position:65% line:5% size:25% Very good. 10:46.500 --> 10:49.100 align:left position:75% line:5% size:15% WOMAN: They came down from my mother-in-law. 10:49.100 --> 10:50.600 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% We think they may be 10:50.600 --> 10:52.033 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% Benjamin Greenleaf, 10:52.033 --> 10:53.733 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% but I'm not sure of that. 10:53.733 --> 10:58.400 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% My mother-in-law was given to hyperbole. 10:58.400 --> 11:00.300 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45% Ah. 11:00.300 --> 11:02.300 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% And these came down from the family, 11:02.300 --> 11:04.400 align:left position:55% line:5% size:35% and each woman brought it down. 11:04.400 --> 11:07.100 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% Since you've had them, have you done anything to them? 11:07.100 --> 11:09.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% The only thing we did was frame them. 11:09.233 --> 11:11.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And so these are newer frames, then? 11:11.633 --> 11:13.600 align:left position:45% line:77% size:45% Yes. And what did 11:13.600 --> 11:15.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% the original frame look like? 11:15.266 --> 11:18.233 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% Well, the frames that my mother-in-law had, um, 11:18.233 --> 11:22.366 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% were really the kind that you would put on a diploma, 11:22.366 --> 11:24.666 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% those little black ones? Uh-huh, okay. 11:24.666 --> 11:26.100 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% And they were falling apart. 11:26.100 --> 11:30.533 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% Let's start with dispelling any family hyperbole, 11:30.533 --> 11:33.133 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% any apocryphal story. 11:33.133 --> 11:35.733 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% These paintings are definitely by Benjamin Greenleaf. 11:35.733 --> 11:38.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Greenleaf, as you may know, 11:38.666 --> 11:42.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% was born in Hull, Massachusetts, in 1769, 11:42.933 --> 11:44.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and he really started painting 11:44.533 --> 11:46.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% when he was in his early 30s. 11:46.833 --> 11:48.800 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Before that, we don't know what he did. 11:48.800 --> 11:52.200 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% He's one of those artists that we don't know much about. 11:52.200 --> 11:53.433 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% But we do know 11:53.433 --> 11:56.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% when he was born and when he was active. 11:56.000 --> 11:59.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And he was active for about a 15-year period 11:59.433 --> 12:02.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% between 1803 and 1818. 12:02.100 --> 12:04.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He was an itinerant painter, 12:04.166 --> 12:05.433 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% going from town to town, 12:05.433 --> 12:07.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% staying there until... 12:07.100 --> 12:08.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% he had either worn his welcome out 12:08.700 --> 12:10.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% or he's painted enough commissions that he was done. 12:10.833 --> 12:13.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% These two portraits-- 12:13.500 --> 12:15.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% this painting is very typical of Greenleaf's work, 12:15.766 --> 12:17.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% because it's painted on glass. 12:17.766 --> 12:20.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% In other words, it's a reverse painting. 12:20.166 --> 12:22.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Greenleaf took a piece of glass 12:22.466 --> 12:24.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and painted the portrait on the back of the glass, 12:24.766 --> 12:26.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and they're very fragile. 12:26.700 --> 12:28.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The gentleman, 12:28.366 --> 12:31.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% who's almost certainly by-- also by Greenleaf, 12:31.000 --> 12:32.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% but it's on a panel. 12:32.500 --> 12:34.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's on a piece of wood. 12:34.033 --> 12:36.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% One of the things that Greenleaf was known for 12:36.533 --> 12:38.566 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% was painting these profile portraits 12:38.566 --> 12:40.400 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and virtually filling the painting 12:40.400 --> 12:42.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% with the portrait. 12:42.500 --> 12:44.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And, in fact, this one, 12:44.933 --> 12:48.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I wonder when it was reframed, if, there, her bonnet 12:48.666 --> 12:51.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% really goes underneath the rabbet of the frame. 12:51.266 --> 12:52.800 align:left position:65% line:83% size:25% Oh, yeah-- oh, interesting. 12:52.800 --> 12:55.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Here's the potential bad news. 12:55.466 --> 12:57.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Greenleafs, every one that I've seen, 12:57.900 --> 13:00.400 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% they're in those little crummy black frames, 13:00.400 --> 13:02.800 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% so you might have thrown away the original frames. 13:02.800 --> 13:06.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% That hurts the package, 13:06.200 --> 13:09.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% because it's not the original frame. 13:09.300 --> 13:12.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% In spite of the fact that the portraits are great, 13:12.600 --> 13:14.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% if they'd been in their original frame, 13:14.633 --> 13:15.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% they'd be even greater. 13:15.966 --> 13:18.666 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Greenleaf's work is really pretty rare. 13:18.666 --> 13:22.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% There are less than 60 of these portraits 13:22.700 --> 13:24.633 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% known to have been done by him, 13:24.633 --> 13:26.633 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% probably because a lot of them broke. 13:26.633 --> 13:30.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% In this condition, in these new frames, 13:30.200 --> 13:33.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% a good pre-sale auction estimate 13:33.833 --> 13:35.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% would be $5,000 to $7,000. 13:35.433 --> 13:36.466 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Wow, very good. 13:36.466 --> 13:37.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Now, if they were 13:37.666 --> 13:40.900 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% in their original frames, you might add 13:40.900 --> 13:42.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% a few more thousand, 13:42.200 --> 13:44.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and it might have been worth $8,000 to $10,000. 13:44.966 --> 13:46.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I should also point out 13:46.466 --> 13:49.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% that Greenleaf did various sizes of these, 13:49.300 --> 13:52.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% so the bigger that they are, the more expensive they are, 13:52.666 --> 13:55.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% because they're more fragile. 13:55.400 --> 13:59.200 align:left position:42.5% line:77% size:47.5% PEÑA: Rosecliff has seen many notable gatherings over the years. 13:59.200 --> 14:02.100 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% A circus tent was erected on the grounds in 1901 14:02.100 --> 14:04.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% for the tenth birthday of Tessie Oelrichs' son. 14:04.666 --> 14:07.933 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% For her Bal Blanc, or white party, in 1904, 14:07.933 --> 14:10.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Tessie had full-size silhouettes of sailing ships 14:10.666 --> 14:12.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% anchored in the water off the back lawn 14:12.766 --> 14:15.533 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% to give the illusion of a grand white fleet. 14:17.533 --> 14:20.133 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% WOMAN: Years ago, my husband and I 14:20.133 --> 14:23.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% went to the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston for an exhibition, 14:23.800 --> 14:25.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and on the way home, 14:25.400 --> 14:28.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% we passed this little antique shop, 14:28.233 --> 14:29.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and I wanted to stop. 14:29.633 --> 14:31.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He didn't, but we stopped-- I won. 14:31.400 --> 14:33.133 align:left position:62.5% line:89% size:27.5% (chuckling) 14:33.133 --> 14:35.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Nothing of the, in the shop was of value, 14:35.600 --> 14:39.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but this was hanging on the railing outside. 14:39.366 --> 14:42.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And I said to my husband, "I absolutely love that rug. 14:42.100 --> 14:44.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I've got to find out how much it is." 14:44.200 --> 14:45.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So I went in to see the gentleman, 14:45.866 --> 14:48.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and he said, "The rug's $100." 14:48.433 --> 14:49.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And I said, "Are you sure?" 14:49.466 --> 14:50.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He said, "Yes, it's a good rug." 14:50.766 --> 14:51.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I wanted the rug. 14:51.800 --> 14:53.800 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% Early 20th century, 14:53.800 --> 14:56.533 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% there was a trend of collecting Oriental rugs 14:56.533 --> 14:57.866 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% in the United States. 14:57.866 --> 15:00.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% People collected paintings, tapestries, furniture, 15:00.666 --> 15:02.166 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% also collected great rugs. 15:02.166 --> 15:04.866 align:left position:50% line:5% size:40% And as a result, other people thought, 15:04.866 --> 15:07.900 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% "Hmm, we have this tradition of American hooked rugs. 15:07.900 --> 15:10.700 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% We could use those designs and create..." 15:10.700 --> 15:13.233 align:left position:65% line:83% size:25% Basically, not really reproductions, 15:13.233 --> 15:15.933 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% but our own variations on what Eastern rugs looked like. 15:15.933 --> 15:17.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Mm-hmm. 15:17.066 --> 15:18.533 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% They were really originally sold as kits. 15:18.533 --> 15:21.666 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% Circa 1920, you'd buy the burlap backing 15:21.666 --> 15:24.000 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% and it would have a pattern stenciled on it, 15:24.000 --> 15:25.000 align:left position:70% line:83% size:20% but then you'd get your own wools 15:25.000 --> 15:26.533 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% and you'd get your own fabrics, 15:26.533 --> 15:27.800 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% and do the hooking yourself. 15:27.800 --> 15:29.866 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% And so whoever did this went out 15:29.866 --> 15:32.433 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% and very specifically bought the proper yarns. 15:32.433 --> 15:33.700 align:left position:70% line:89% size:20% I think, 15:33.700 --> 15:35.666 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% just because the color's so consistent throughout, 15:35.666 --> 15:37.866 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% it's obviously not scrap material 15:37.866 --> 15:39.566 align:left position:47.5% line:77% size:42.5% that's been used. Yeah. 15:39.566 --> 15:42.700 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% But you can see a few a spots where they have filled in. 15:42.700 --> 15:45.000 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% There's a deeper red through here. 15:45.000 --> 15:46.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I can see it, yeah. 15:46.266 --> 15:47.566 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5% There's a purple, 15:47.566 --> 15:50.066 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and I originally thought, "Hmm, some restoration." 15:50.066 --> 15:51.633 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% But when you look at the back of the rug 15:51.633 --> 15:52.966 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% and really look at the consistency 15:52.966 --> 15:54.333 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% of the yarn itself... 15:54.333 --> 15:57.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They ran out of this red, so they transitioned to the other? 15:57.633 --> 15:59.166 align:left position:62.5% line:71% size:27.5% Absolutely, absolutely. Uh-huh. 15:59.166 --> 16:01.433 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And that's a really nice aspect of things, 16:01.433 --> 16:02.700 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% because hooked rugs really come out 16:02.700 --> 16:04.233 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% of a Folk Art tradition, 16:04.233 --> 16:05.966 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% so it's nice to have those kind of homey touches 16:05.966 --> 16:08.066 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% that are coming into the rug itself. 16:08.066 --> 16:10.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% This example's in extremely good condition, 16:10.166 --> 16:13.100 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% with very, very good color retention. 16:13.100 --> 16:17.033 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% I think it would have a retail price of $8,000. 16:18.233 --> 16:19.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% $8,000? 16:19.666 --> 16:22.566 align:left position:72.5% line:77% size:17.5% $8,000. Oh, my goodness. 16:22.566 --> 16:25.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% That... that is remarkable, 16:25.266 --> 16:28.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and certainly far beyond what I've ever expected. 16:28.433 --> 16:31.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I have loved this for the years that I've had it, 16:31.900 --> 16:35.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and, actually, I tried to give it to one of my girls, 16:35.700 --> 16:37.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and she said no, 16:37.233 --> 16:38.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and I bet she regrets it right now! 16:38.566 --> 16:40.133 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% (laughing) 16:41.733 --> 16:43.333 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% MAN: Well, I got it from my ex-mother-in-law, 16:43.333 --> 16:45.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% who grew up in Cooperstown, New York. 16:45.333 --> 16:46.666 align:left position:65% line:83% size:25% APPRAISER: Right. 16:46.666 --> 16:48.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And they happened to go to this event, 16:48.200 --> 16:50.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% which was the only exhibition event 16:50.066 --> 16:52.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% held by Major League Baseball at the time, 16:52.200 --> 16:53.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% called "Cavalcade of Baseball." 16:53.533 --> 16:54.533 align:left position:75% line:89% size:15% Right. 16:54.533 --> 16:55.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And it was held at Doubleday Field. 16:55.900 --> 16:57.733 align:left position:57.5% line:71% size:32.5% These tickets are really rare, 16:57.733 --> 17:00.333 align:left position:35% line:71% size:55% and they sell anywhere between $500 and $800. 17:00.333 --> 17:02.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% This is like a little pencil box 17:02.500 --> 17:04.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% or a dresser box. Uh-huh. 17:04.600 --> 17:06.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% And it's probably German. 17:06.566 --> 17:08.666 align:left position:72.5% line:5% size:17.5% German! European. 17:08.666 --> 17:10.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% We made things like this in America. 17:10.433 --> 17:11.500 align:left position:77.5% line:5% size:12.5% Yeah. 17:11.500 --> 17:12.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% But the way it's painted 17:12.833 --> 17:14.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and the decoration and the wood... Yes. 17:14.433 --> 17:17.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% That tells you that it's probably European. 17:17.166 --> 17:20.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% You're looking at about $350. 17:20.300 --> 17:21.766 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% I like to yard-sale, 17:21.766 --> 17:23.600 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% but I get a lot of grief from my sons all the time, 17:23.600 --> 17:26.766 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% so I've been trying to, like, not do it as often, 17:26.766 --> 17:28.533 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% but I saw a sign, and I stopped, 17:28.533 --> 17:31.233 align:left position:50% line:71% size:40% and I saw these, and I liked them. Okay. 17:31.233 --> 17:32.566 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% And the price was right. 17:32.566 --> 17:34.166 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% Can I ask what you paid for them? 17:34.166 --> 17:35.633 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% For all of them, $25. 17:35.633 --> 17:36.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% How long ago? 17:36.733 --> 17:37.800 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% Just a few months ago. 17:37.800 --> 17:38.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Really? 17:38.800 --> 17:40.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% When you came in, 17:40.300 --> 17:42.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% you had these all in a folder. 17:42.766 --> 17:44.033 align:left position:57.5% line:5% size:32.5% That I bought last night. 17:44.033 --> 17:46.166 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% That you bought last night. 17:46.166 --> 17:48.366 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% Probably for almost the same amount. 17:48.366 --> 17:50.633 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Yeah, yeah, it was $20 for the folder, yeah. 17:50.633 --> 17:51.866 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% And the top one 17:51.866 --> 17:54.033 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% was this one up here. Yes. 17:54.033 --> 17:55.400 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% I really liked it, 17:55.400 --> 17:57.233 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% and I'm familiar with the artist, 17:57.233 --> 18:00.433 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% but I wasn't sure if it was real or not. 18:00.433 --> 18:02.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And it's signed "Edward Hopper" underneath. 18:02.666 --> 18:04.466 align:left position:80% line:77% size:10% Yes. So then, 18:04.466 --> 18:07.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I flipped the page in the book, 18:07.500 --> 18:08.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and this piece showed up. 18:08.633 --> 18:10.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This is by Kenneth Hayes Miller, 18:10.600 --> 18:11.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% who is, was, in his day, 18:11.900 --> 18:14.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% a very important artist and instructor, 18:14.800 --> 18:17.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but isn't somebody who's really withstood the test of time. 18:17.400 --> 18:21.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But what's interesting about seeing these two together 18:21.066 --> 18:23.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% is, the Hopper was in a portfolio 18:23.933 --> 18:27.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% called "Six American Etchings: The 'New Republic' Portfolio." 18:27.400 --> 18:29.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% That was published in 1924. 18:29.966 --> 18:32.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This was also in that same portfolio. 18:32.766 --> 18:33.933 align:left position:82.5% line:89% size:7.5% Oh. 18:33.933 --> 18:36.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So just by having found the two together, 18:36.733 --> 18:39.100 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% that strengthens the provenance even more. 18:39.100 --> 18:40.233 align:left position:67.5% line:89% size:22.5% Oh, okay. 18:40.233 --> 18:43.200 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% To tell me, "This looks very good." 18:43.200 --> 18:45.666 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Also in that same portfolio of six prints 18:45.666 --> 18:48.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% was a John Marin print, 18:48.433 --> 18:50.600 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% an Ernest Haskell print... Ah! 18:50.600 --> 18:54.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And a Peggy Bacon print. 18:54.000 --> 18:55.200 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% And I left one behind. 18:55.200 --> 18:57.400 align:left position:15% line:77% size:75% And that was by John Sloan? I don't know. 18:57.400 --> 18:59.500 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% Because I didn't have enough money-- 18:59.500 --> 19:02.366 align:left position:35% line:71% size:55% I only had, like, $25, so I left one behind. Oh, no! 19:02.366 --> 19:03.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% (laughing) 19:03.766 --> 19:06.033 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% And I just took the one that I didn't-- yeah. 19:06.033 --> 19:07.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So that was probably a print by John Sloan 19:07.966 --> 19:09.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% called "The Bandits Cave." 19:09.300 --> 19:10.566 align:left position:77.5% line:89% size:12.5% Okay. 19:10.566 --> 19:12.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So the fact that you have all these together 19:12.233 --> 19:17.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% is wonderful proof that this is indeed 19:17.433 --> 19:18.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% what it purports to be. 19:18.700 --> 19:20.266 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% The Hayes Miller, 19:20.266 --> 19:21.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% also pencil-signed, 19:21.266 --> 19:22.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% also an etching, lovely print, 19:22.966 --> 19:24.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% not in terrific condition. 19:24.933 --> 19:27.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Realistically, were you to sell this at auction, 19:27.133 --> 19:28.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% you might expect it to bring 19:28.866 --> 19:30.900 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% about $80 to $120. Okay. 19:30.900 --> 19:32.366 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Not a tremendous amount. Yeah. 19:32.366 --> 19:34.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The Ernest Haskell, 19:34.366 --> 19:35.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% also signed, 19:35.633 --> 19:37.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% called "Sentinels of North Creek," 19:37.700 --> 19:41.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% another lovely etching, but again, not very important. 19:41.000 --> 19:42.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% $200, $300. 19:42.466 --> 19:44.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Peggy Bacon, 19:44.133 --> 19:47.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% a fairly unusual female artist. 19:47.066 --> 19:48.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This is a more important print. 19:48.933 --> 19:50.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's called "Promenade Deck." 19:50.366 --> 19:51.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% At auction currently, 19:51.600 --> 19:54.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% you're probably looking about $500 to $700 for it. 19:54.100 --> 19:55.133 align:left position:77.5% line:89% size:12.5% Okay. 19:55.133 --> 19:57.466 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% The John Marin is interesting. 19:57.466 --> 20:00.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% When the portfolio first came out, 20:00.100 --> 20:01.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% it included this John Marin print, 20:01.900 --> 20:05.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% which is called "Brooklyn Bridge Six Swaying." Okay. 20:05.033 --> 20:08.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% After just a few of the edition was published, 20:08.300 --> 20:10.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% he changed out that print 20:10.066 --> 20:13.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% for another print called "Downtown, The El." 20:13.166 --> 20:15.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This is the more rare and desirable print. 20:15.333 --> 20:16.333 align:left position:70% line:89% size:20% Oh. 20:16.333 --> 20:17.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So this is a fantastic etching, 20:17.800 --> 20:19.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and it's in lovely condition. 20:19.666 --> 20:21.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So at auction, for the John Marin, 20:21.266 --> 20:22.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% you're looking about 20:22.266 --> 20:24.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% $15,000 to $25,000. 20:26.700 --> 20:28.366 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% Oh, my God. 20:28.366 --> 20:30.200 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% Oh, my God! 20:30.200 --> 20:31.866 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% I'm glad I didn't leave that one behind. 20:31.866 --> 20:34.133 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% (laughs) 20:34.133 --> 20:38.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The Hopper is possibly one of his best-known prints. 20:38.733 --> 20:41.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And at auction, you're looking 20:41.000 --> 20:43.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% $30,000 to $50,000. 20:46.533 --> 20:48.200 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% Crazy. 20:48.200 --> 20:50.366 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% Absolutely crazy. 20:50.366 --> 20:52.166 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Are your kids going to give you grief after this? 20:52.166 --> 20:53.500 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% No, they better not. 20:53.500 --> 20:54.633 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% (both laugh) 20:54.633 --> 20:56.466 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% They better not. 20:56.466 --> 20:58.433 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% No, not at all, they better not. 21:00.533 --> 21:02.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% The one you left behind, the John Sloan, 21:02.500 --> 21:04.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% $500 to $700 at auction. 21:06.066 --> 21:06.933 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% PEÑA: This is part one 21:06.933 --> 21:08.100 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% PEÑA: And now it's time 21:08.100 --> 21:10.166 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% for the "Roadshow" Feedback Booth. 21:10.166 --> 21:13.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And these are two German wooden figurines. 21:13.266 --> 21:14.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% They're pretty crudely carved, 21:14.700 --> 21:16.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% so they were only worth five or ten bucks. 21:16.700 --> 21:18.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So, play toys! 21:18.566 --> 21:19.966 align:left position:55% line:89% size:35% (laughs) 21:19.966 --> 21:21.766 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% My wife won me tickets 21:21.766 --> 21:23.866 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% to the Antiques Roadshow for my birthday, 21:23.866 --> 21:25.633 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% and there's no one luckier than me. 21:25.633 --> 21:27.833 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Everyone who brought something worth money's luckier than me, 21:27.833 --> 21:29.166 align:left position:55% line:89% size:35% but, oh, well. 21:29.166 --> 21:31.600 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Next time, we're going to have more fun and more money. 21:31.600 --> 21:34.300 align:left position:15% line:77% size:75% And I brought a carriage clock that, actually, 21:34.300 --> 21:37.100 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% the case is worth more than the clock itself. 21:37.100 --> 21:39.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I brought the family heirloom medals. 21:39.933 --> 21:41.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I found a lot about them, 21:41.566 --> 21:43.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and the appraiser, I made his day, 21:43.966 --> 21:46.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and my grouping was worth about $1,000, 21:46.733 --> 21:48.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% so I am very pleased. 21:48.500 --> 21:50.633 align:left position:52.5% line:5% size:37.5% And I found out that my photographs 21:50.633 --> 21:52.466 align:left position:50% line:5% size:40% of Elvis Presley doing karate 21:52.466 --> 21:56.600 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% were worth about $225, so, not bad. 21:56.600 --> 21:59.566 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% My family has told me for years and years 21:59.566 --> 22:02.733 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% that it was a print and it wasn't worth very much, 22:02.733 --> 22:05.466 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% but today, I came to the Antiques Roadshow, 22:05.466 --> 22:07.566 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% and I found out that it was a print 22:07.566 --> 22:09.000 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% and it wasn't worth very much. 22:09.000 --> 22:10.566 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% $100. 22:10.566 --> 22:14.733 align:left position:57.5% line:5% size:32.5% I've got this antique chicken boot scraper 22:14.733 --> 22:18.233 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% that my wife bought at a yard sale for $25 22:18.233 --> 22:21.533 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% and appraised it for $15, so I think we are rich. 22:21.533 --> 22:22.900 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% $1,500. 22:22.900 --> 22:24.800 align:left position:57.5% line:5% size:32.5% $1,500, yeah. 22:24.800 --> 22:26.133 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% PEÑA: Thanks for watching. 22:26.133 --> 22:27.766 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% Tune in again for another great episode 22:27.766 --> 22:29.666 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% of "Antiques Roadshow Recut."