WEBVTT 00:02.066 --> 00:05.466 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: I brought some World War II memorabilia from the WASPs, the Women's Air Service Patrol. 00:07.466 --> 00:11.766 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% This is Jackie Cochran. She headed up the WASPs in World War II, and my mother was her 00:13.766 --> 00:18.633 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% secretary. And my mother asked Jackie Cochran if she could have a set of the wings, and 00:20.700 --> 00:24.133 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Jackie said yes. And so that's what you see over here is her wings. And she had it engraved 00:25.433 --> 00:27.033 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% to my mom on the back. 00:27.033 --> 00:29.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% APPRAISER: And tell me about your photographs. 00:29.133 --> 00:33.733 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: The photographs were autographed by Jackie Cochran to my mom. This one was, "For 00:35.733 --> 00:39.766 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Miss McSweeney, with all good wishes, Jacqueline Cochran." And then this one, over here to 00:41.833 --> 00:45.733 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% the right, I think is funny. "To Miss McSweeney, "This is just the way I feel sometimes. Jackie 00:48.733 --> 00:53.700 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Cochran." And then my mom put a little notation underneath that, "Most times." (laughs) 00:55.700 --> 00:58.166 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: So did your mom tell you anything about why she made that notation? 00:58.166 --> 01:03.133 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: It didn't matter what time of day it was, if Jackie called, you, you came. She 01:05.133 --> 01:08.733 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% was a demanding woman, but she was also... It seemed like she was a really nice person, 01:09.200 --> 01:11.833 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% as well. 01:11.833 --> 01:15.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% APPRAISER: Well, she was also a force of nature. She was somebody who was a very, very accomplished 01:17.066 --> 01:20.900 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% aviator before the war. She won a number of the air trophies. She worked with Amelia Earhart. 01:22.933 --> 01:26.166 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% She had connections before the war even started. And we see the WASPs as something that occurred 01:28.100 --> 01:32.033 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% during World War II, but the genesis of that started in 1939, when Jackie wrote to Eleanor 01:34.000 --> 01:36.300 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Roosevelt and said, "You know, I think there should be a role for women." 01:36.300 --> 01:38.366 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Oh, nice. 01:38.366 --> 01:42.300 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: Within the... At that time it was the Army Air Corps. And that kind of got passed 01:44.366 --> 01:47.566 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% up the chain. And in 1941, prior to our involvement in the war, she was even corresponding with 01:49.566 --> 01:52.966 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% officers in the Army Air Corps talking about, "Women could ferry aircraft, "there are jobs 01:52.966 --> 01:57.300 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% that they could take over and let the men go and do something else." So, when she comes 01:57.300 --> 02:01.766 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% back to the United States, as that first class comes through-- they're training with Jackie 02:01.766 --> 02:03.000 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% in command... 02:03.000 --> 02:05.000 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Ah. 02:05.000 --> 02:08.433 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: She wanted wings for these ladies. And she simply paid for them out of pocket. 02:08.433 --> 02:11.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% GUEST: I do remember reading that now, yes. 02:11.600 --> 02:16.600 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: So, even though your mom was not a pilot, these were Jackie's to give out. 02:18.033 --> 02:20.000 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Right. 02:20.000 --> 02:22.633 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: And, clearly, she decided that's what she, that's what she needed to do. And 02:22.633 --> 02:27.333 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% she has engraved this on the reverse, specifically to your mother. 02:27.333 --> 02:28.333 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Yes. 02:28.333 --> 02:29.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% APPRAISER: Which is awesome. 02:29.333 --> 02:30.733 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% GUEST: Yeah, I think so. 02:30.733 --> 02:32.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: Clearly, you understand the historical value. 02:32.033 --> 02:34.533 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Yes. 02:34.533 --> 02:36.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% APPRAISER: Because you understand how it relates to women's position within flying. And now 02:36.566 --> 02:40.600 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% we've got... Some of the best pilots in the Air Force are female, which is awesome. 02:41.200 --> 02:43.233 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Mm-hmm. 02:43.233 --> 02:45.333 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: So, they've, they've come a long way. But she is really the driving force that 02:45.333 --> 02:49.666 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% got that all started. Have you given any thought to, beyond the historical value, what the 02:50.433 --> 02:52.100 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% monetary value might be? 02:52.100 --> 02:54.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% GUEST: Not whatsoever. I have no idea. 02:54.666 --> 02:59.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% APPRAISER: A retail value on the market today for this set would be, conservatively, between 03:02.400 --> 03:04.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% $6,000 and $8,000. 03:04.333 --> 03:08.666 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: Are you kidding me? (laughing): Oh, my gosh! Great. Well, thank you very much. 03:12.833 --> 03:15.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I really appreciate it. It's crazy.