1 00:00:02,066 --> 00:00:05,466 GUEST: I brought some World War II memorabilia from the WASPs, the Women's Air Service Patrol. 2 00:00:07,466 --> 00:00:11,766 This is Jackie Cochran. She headed up the WASPs in World War II, and my mother was her 3 00:00:13,766 --> 00:00:18,633 secretary. And my mother asked Jackie Cochran if she could have a set of the wings, and 4 00:00:20,700 --> 00:00:24,133 Jackie said yes. And so that's what you see over here is her wings. And she had it engraved 5 00:00:25,433 --> 00:00:27,033 to my mom on the back. 6 00:00:27,033 --> 00:00:29,133 APPRAISER: And tell me about your photographs. 7 00:00:29,133 --> 00:00:33,733 GUEST: The photographs were autographed by Jackie Cochran to my mom. This one was, "For 8 00:00:35,733 --> 00:00:39,766 Miss McSweeney, with all good wishes, Jacqueline Cochran." And then this one, over here to 9 00:00:41,833 --> 00:00:45,733 the right, I think is funny. "To Miss McSweeney, "This is just the way I feel sometimes. Jackie 10 00:00:48,733 --> 00:00:53,700 Cochran." And then my mom put a little notation underneath that, "Most times." (laughs) 11 00:00:55,700 --> 00:00:58,166 APPRAISER: So did your mom tell you anything about why she made that notation? 12 00:00:58,166 --> 00:01:03,133 GUEST: It didn't matter what time of day it was, if Jackie called, you, you came. She 13 00:01:05,133 --> 00:01:08,733 was a demanding woman, but she was also... It seemed like she was a really nice person, 14 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,833 as well. 15 00:01:11,833 --> 00:01:15,033 APPRAISER: Well, she was also a force of nature. She was somebody who was a very, very accomplished 16 00:01:17,066 --> 00:01:20,900 aviator before the war. She won a number of the air trophies. She worked with Amelia Earhart. 17 00:01:22,933 --> 00:01:26,166 She had connections before the war even started. And we see the WASPs as something that occurred 18 00:01:28,100 --> 00:01:32,033 during World War II, but the genesis of that started in 1939, when Jackie wrote to Eleanor 19 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,300 Roosevelt and said, "You know, I think there should be a role for women." 20 00:01:36,300 --> 00:01:38,366 GUEST: Oh, nice. 21 00:01:38,366 --> 00:01:42,300 APPRAISER: Within the... At that time it was the Army Air Corps. And that kind of got passed 22 00:01:44,366 --> 00:01:47,566 up the chain. And in 1941, prior to our involvement in the war, she was even corresponding with 23 00:01:49,566 --> 00:01:52,966 officers in the Army Air Corps talking about, "Women could ferry aircraft, "there are jobs 24 00:01:52,966 --> 00:01:57,300 that they could take over and let the men go and do something else." So, when she comes 25 00:01:57,300 --> 00:02:01,766 back to the United States, as that first class comes through-- they're training with Jackie 26 00:02:01,766 --> 00:02:03,000 in command... 27 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,000 GUEST: Ah. 28 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,433 APPRAISER: She wanted wings for these ladies. And she simply paid for them out of pocket. 29 00:02:08,433 --> 00:02:11,600 GUEST: I do remember reading that now, yes. 30 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,600 APPRAISER: So, even though your mom was not a pilot, these were Jackie's to give out. 31 00:02:18,033 --> 00:02:20,000 GUEST: Right. 32 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,633 APPRAISER: And, clearly, she decided that's what she, that's what she needed to do. And 33 00:02:22,633 --> 00:02:27,333 she has engraved this on the reverse, specifically to your mother. 34 00:02:27,333 --> 00:02:28,333 GUEST: Yes. 35 00:02:28,333 --> 00:02:29,333 APPRAISER: Which is awesome. 36 00:02:29,333 --> 00:02:30,733 GUEST: Yeah, I think so. 37 00:02:30,733 --> 00:02:32,033 APPRAISER: Clearly, you understand the historical value. 38 00:02:32,033 --> 00:02:34,533 GUEST: Yes. 39 00:02:34,533 --> 00:02:36,566 APPRAISER: Because you understand how it relates to women's position within flying. And now 40 00:02:36,566 --> 00:02:40,600 we've got... Some of the best pilots in the Air Force are female, which is awesome. 41 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,233 GUEST: Mm-hmm. 42 00:02:43,233 --> 00:02:45,333 APPRAISER: So, they've, they've come a long way. But she is really the driving force that 43 00:02:45,333 --> 00:02:49,666 got that all started. Have you given any thought to, beyond the historical value, what the 44 00:02:50,433 --> 00:02:52,100 monetary value might be? 45 00:02:52,100 --> 00:02:54,666 GUEST: Not whatsoever. I have no idea. 46 00:02:54,666 --> 00:02:59,533 APPRAISER: A retail value on the market today for this set would be, conservatively, between 47 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,333 $6,000 and $8,000. 48 00:03:04,333 --> 00:03:08,666 GUEST: Are you kidding me? (laughing): Oh, my gosh! Great. Well, thank you very much. 49 00:03:12,833 --> 00:03:15,066 I really appreciate it. It's crazy.