WEBVTT 00:02.235 --> 00:07.440 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% GUEST: Well, I inherited this painting from my parents. My mother wanted to give my father a gift 00:07.440 --> 00:13.046 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% that he would really love. And he loved reading to his children books that had illustrations. 00:13.046 --> 00:15.015 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% APPRAISER: Mm-hmm. 00:15.015 --> 00:19.786 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% GUEST: And this is one of the illustrations. She knew how much he would love to get one of those, 00:19.786 --> 00:24.457 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% so she decided that she needed to make this a secret. So what she did was, 00:24.457 --> 00:28.928 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% she saved five dollars from her food money every week for probably two years. 00:28.928 --> 00:29.562 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% APPRAISER: Oh, wow. 00:29.562 --> 00:31.531 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% GUEST: And didn't tell him this. 00:31.531 --> 00:33.299 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% APPRAISER: Amazing right. 00:33.299 --> 00:37.604 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: And then it's either his birthday or their anniversary, gave him a card that said, 00:37.604 --> 00:39.706 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% "You can go down to the Schoonover Studios and pick out a painting." 00:39.706 --> 00:40.573 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% APPRAISER: Oh, that's... 00:40.573 --> 00:43.009 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% GUEST: And he was elated, to say the least. 00:43.009 --> 00:45.011 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% APPRAISER: Oh, how exciting. 00:45.011 --> 00:48.148 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: And so we went down as four kids and the mom and dad, and 00:50.517 --> 00:53.853 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% we chose a painting. What I remember, this would have been in the early '60s. 00:53.853 --> 00:54.587 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% APPRAISER: Mm-hmm. 00:54.587 --> 00:56.990 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% GUEST: Early to mid-'60s, I'll say. APPRAISER: Okay. 00:56.990 --> 01:00.794 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: Dark wooden floors, paint. I think there were big windows at one end. 01:00.794 --> 01:02.729 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% APPRAISER: Mm-hmm. 01:02.729 --> 01:09.602 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: And there was partially completed canvases here, there was, you know, old, probably, 01:09.602 --> 01:12.505 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% I'll say discarded ones there, and, you know, then there was... There was sort of stacks of them 01:12.505 --> 01:13.973 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% . APPRAISER: Mm-hmm. 01:13.973 --> 01:16.676 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: This is the one with the clipper ship, which he thought was extraordinary. 01:16.676 --> 01:17.710 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% APPRAISER: Right. 01:17.710 --> 01:19.412 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% GUEST: And then this galleon, and... I don't know, he just, 01:21.514 --> 01:22.982 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% he decided on that one, and we all, of course, were thrilled. 01:22.982 --> 01:24.584 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% APPRAISER: And the title of the painting is... 01:24.584 --> 01:28.254 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% GUEST: "Privateers of '76." 01:28.254 --> 01:32.859 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: Right. The story was written by an author named Ralph D. Paine, who apparently 01:32.859 --> 01:38.865 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% wrote several books in the early 20th century, and a lot of them relating to history. On the back of 01:38.865 --> 01:44.804 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the painting, we have the inventory number for the painting, which is number 1248. Mm-hmm. There is 01:44.804 --> 01:49.109 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% a label, which actually is handwritten, and maybe by Schoonover himself, that says it, 01:49.109 --> 01:53.980 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% it's from chapter 13. The title of the illustration is "At a hail from the boat, 01:53.980 --> 01:56.149 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% he went to the rail." "At the hail of the boat," meaning the one below, 01:58.318 --> 02:02.622 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% the figure on top comes to the rail. Now, Schoonover, of course, 02:02.622 --> 02:05.825 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% is one of the premier artists of the Brandywine School. And he studied with Howard Pyle... 02:05.825 --> 02:06.693 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Yes. 02:06.693 --> 02:07.260 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: ...who is considered the father of the school... 02:07.260 --> 02:08.495 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Yes. 02:08.495 --> 02:10.063 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% APPRAISER: ...at Drexel Institute in Philadelphia. 02:10.063 --> 02:11.998 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% GUEST: Oh, I didn't know that. 02:11.998 --> 02:16.035 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: And Schoonover was very good at, at wanting to get to reality. So not 02:16.035 --> 02:20.306 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% only did he go out west, but he also went down to the bayous in Mississippi 02:20.306 --> 02:24.077 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% to sort of get a sense of how the pirates would have lived in that environment. 02:24.077 --> 02:26.880 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% He had a house in Bushkill, Pennsylvania, in Pike County, which is in the Poconos. 02:26.880 --> 02:27.514 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Mm-hmm. 02:27.514 --> 02:29.883 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% APPRAISER: And he would spend his summers there. 02:29.883 --> 02:34.020 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% But he used the landscape of that area in, in many of his paintings. 02:34.020 --> 02:37.724 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% GUEST: You know, I think that the card that Mr. Schoonover gave my parents when they purchased 02:37.724 --> 02:40.593 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% this said that it was painted in Bushkill-- is that what it's called? 02:40.593 --> 02:41.828 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% APPRAISER: Yes, Bushkill, Pennsylvania. 02:41.828 --> 02:42.929 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% GUEST: Yes, yeah. 02:42.929 --> 02:48.468 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: And certainly, he was very popular, especially in the early part 02:48.468 --> 02:52.205 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% of the 20th century, because he illustrated such classic books as "Robinson Crusoe"... 02:52.205 --> 02:53.606 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Mmm. 02:53.606 --> 02:55.808 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% APPRAISER: "Swiss Family Robinson." And he did a whole series of books for, 02:57.577 --> 03:00.346 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% on Zane Grey Western novels. 03:00.346 --> 03:01.381 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% GUEST: Oh, really? Oh, my gosh. 03:01.381 --> 03:03.917 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: So he was quite into it, as well as magazine illustrations. 03:03.917 --> 03:05.552 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Mmm. 03:05.552 --> 03:12.258 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: He was born in 1877 and he actually lived to 1972. So he was primarily painting in 03:12.258 --> 03:16.229 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% the early 20th century, and really, I think, up until he passed away. The painting, 03:16.229 --> 03:20.233 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% of course, is oil on canvas, and looks like the original frame. This painting 03:20.233 --> 03:24.204 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% is dated in the lower right '23, 1923, and that's when the novel was first published. 03:24.204 --> 03:25.772 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Hm. 03:25.772 --> 03:31.211 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: He is popular as an illustrator nationwide. If this were in a gallery, I think 03:31.211 --> 03:39.986 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% that it would sell in the range of $125,000. GUEST: (chuckles) I know you're kidding me. 03:39.986 --> 03:44.624 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: No, I'm not kidding you. It's a wonderful... 03:44.624 --> 03:44.357 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% GUEST: (softly) Really? APPRAISER: Yes. 03:44.357 --> 03:45.425 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% GUEST: Really? 03:45.425 --> 03:46.259 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% APPRAISER: It's a wonderful painting. 03:46.259 --> 03:49.629 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% GUEST: (breathes deeply) 03:49.629 --> 03:54.200 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% My father would be so thrilled to know that people were being turned on to illustrations. 03:54.200 --> 03:56.002 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% APPRAISER: Yeah. 03:56.002 --> 03:59.072 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: And my mother would be really thrilled at what you just said. 03:59.072 --> 04:01.307 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: Yeah. (both laughing) Well, it means that her investment was a good one. 04:01.307 --> 04:02.842 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% GUEST: Oh, yes, oh, yes. Wow. 04:04.978 --> 04:08.281 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: There's a big surge of interest in illustration. 04:08.281 --> 04:14.787 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% GUEST: Well, I love this painting. 04:14.787 --> 04:16.122 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% APPRAISER: Yeah. 04:16.122 --> 04:16.623 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% GUEST: I love this painting.