1 00:00:00,533 --> 00:00:02,402 (soft music) 2 00:00:06,740 --> 00:00:09,142 - [Host] They told The Times it was unpatriotic. 3 00:00:09,142 --> 00:00:11,978 They told The Times, the publisher Sulzberger 4 00:00:11,978 --> 00:00:14,080 could go to jail. 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,050 They told Mr. Sulzberger that his father 6 00:00:17,050 --> 00:00:18,685 wouldn't have run it. 7 00:00:18,685 --> 00:00:20,587 - [Reporter] This could backfire on The Times. 8 00:00:20,587 --> 00:00:22,155 The main thing is to cast 9 00:00:22,155 --> 00:00:24,624 in terms of doing something disloyal to the country, 10 00:00:24,624 --> 00:00:25,458 that's right. 11 00:00:25,458 --> 00:00:26,659 This risks our men. 12 00:00:27,794 --> 00:00:29,896 - [Interviewer] Do you feel, Mr. Sulzberger, 13 00:00:29,896 --> 00:00:31,398 that the national security 14 00:00:31,398 --> 00:00:32,932 is endangered as charged by the administration? 15 00:00:32,932 --> 00:00:34,601 - I certainly do not. 16 00:00:35,802 --> 00:00:38,038 This was not a breach of the national security. 17 00:00:38,038 --> 00:00:40,040 We gave away no national secrets. 18 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,276 We didn't jeopardize any American soldiers 19 00:00:43,276 --> 00:00:44,978 or Marines overseas. 20 00:00:44,978 --> 00:00:48,581 - When I interviewed Mr. Sulzberger, he held out his hands 21 00:00:48,581 --> 00:00:51,951 and said "I'm ready to go if I have to." 22 00:00:51,951 --> 00:00:54,754 - The lawyers had urged them not to publish. 23 00:00:54,754 --> 00:00:56,856 The Times went ahead and published. 24 00:00:56,856 --> 00:00:59,526 The Times called its lawyers. 25 00:00:59,526 --> 00:01:02,495 Their lawyers came over and said, "We won't represent you." 26 00:01:03,830 --> 00:01:08,201 And so The Times found themselves without a lawyer. 27 00:01:09,536 --> 00:01:11,538 One in the morning my phone rang 28 00:01:11,538 --> 00:01:14,941 and it was the General Counsel of the Times, James Goodell 29 00:01:14,941 --> 00:01:17,177 who had already called a professor 30 00:01:17,177 --> 00:01:20,113 of mine from Yale Law School, Professor Bickell, 31 00:01:20,113 --> 00:01:25,185 to ask him to lead a team in representing The Times. 32 00:01:27,554 --> 00:01:30,290 And I was stunned. 33 00:01:31,524 --> 00:01:33,426 Stunned to get the call. 34 00:01:33,426 --> 00:01:36,196 (upbeat music) 35 00:01:36,196 --> 00:01:38,131 (group chattering) 36 00:01:38,131 --> 00:01:40,033 - I was a young reporter working 37 00:01:40,033 --> 00:01:44,604 for the late great National Observer and they sent me 38 00:01:44,604 --> 00:01:48,675 to New York to cover the temporary restraining order. 39 00:01:49,976 --> 00:01:53,246 I remembered being scared, really scared. 40 00:01:54,481 --> 00:01:57,417 If the government could stop the New York Times, 41 00:01:57,417 --> 00:02:00,019 the Gray Lady, the most important newspaper 42 00:02:00,019 --> 00:02:01,688 in the United States 43 00:02:01,688 --> 00:02:04,424 at a time when newspapers were still king, 44 00:02:04,424 --> 00:02:06,726 that meant they could stop anybody 45 00:02:06,726 --> 00:02:10,430 from publishing for whatever they called national security. 46 00:02:10,430 --> 00:02:13,166 (upbeat music)