WEBVTT 00:00.533 --> 00:02.402 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (soft music) 00:06.740 --> 00:09.142 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - [Host] They told The Times it was unpatriotic. 00:09.142 --> 00:11.978 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They told The Times, the publisher Sulzberger 00:11.978 --> 00:14.080 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% could go to jail. 00:14.080 --> 00:17.050 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They told Mr. Sulzberger that his father 00:17.050 --> 00:18.685 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% wouldn't have run it. 00:18.685 --> 00:20.587 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - [Reporter] This could backfire on The Times. 00:20.587 --> 00:22.155 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The main thing is to cast 00:22.155 --> 00:24.624 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% in terms of doing something disloyal to the country, 00:24.624 --> 00:25.458 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% that's right. 00:25.458 --> 00:26.659 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% This risks our men. 00:27.794 --> 00:29.896 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - [Interviewer] Do you feel, Mr. Sulzberger, 00:29.896 --> 00:31.398 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% that the national security 00:31.398 --> 00:32.932 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% is endangered as charged by the administration? 00:32.932 --> 00:34.601 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% - I certainly do not. 00:35.802 --> 00:38.038 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% This was not a breach of the national security. 00:38.038 --> 00:40.040 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We gave away no national secrets. 00:40.040 --> 00:43.276 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We didn't jeopardize any American soldiers 00:43.276 --> 00:44.978 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% or Marines overseas. 00:44.978 --> 00:48.581 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% - When I interviewed Mr. Sulzberger, he held out his hands 00:48.581 --> 00:51.951 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and said "I'm ready to go if I have to." 00:51.951 --> 00:54.754 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - The lawyers had urged them not to publish. 00:54.754 --> 00:56.856 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% The Times went ahead and published. 00:56.856 --> 00:59.526 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The Times called its lawyers. 00:59.526 --> 01:02.495 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Their lawyers came over and said, "We won't represent you." 01:03.830 --> 01:08.201 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And so The Times found themselves without a lawyer. 01:09.536 --> 01:11.538 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% One in the morning my phone rang 01:11.538 --> 01:14.941 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and it was the General Counsel of the Times, James Goodell 01:14.941 --> 01:17.177 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% who had already called a professor 01:17.177 --> 01:20.113 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% of mine from Yale Law School, Professor Bickell, 01:20.113 --> 01:25.185 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% to ask him to lead a team in representing The Times. 01:27.554 --> 01:30.290 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% And I was stunned. 01:31.524 --> 01:33.426 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Stunned to get the call. 01:33.426 --> 01:36.196 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (upbeat music) 01:36.196 --> 01:38.131 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% (group chattering) 01:38.131 --> 01:40.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - I was a young reporter working 01:40.033 --> 01:44.604 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% for the late great National Observer and they sent me 01:44.604 --> 01:48.675 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% to New York to cover the temporary restraining order. 01:49.976 --> 01:53.246 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I remembered being scared, really scared. 01:54.481 --> 01:57.417 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% If the government could stop the New York Times, 01:57.417 --> 02:00.019 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% the Gray Lady, the most important newspaper 02:00.019 --> 02:01.688 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% in the United States 02:01.688 --> 02:04.424 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% at a time when newspapers were still king, 02:04.424 --> 02:06.726 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that meant they could stop anybody 02:06.726 --> 02:10.430 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% from publishing for whatever they called national security. 02:10.430 --> 02:13.166 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (upbeat music)